Sewing Patterns, Pattern Review, Sewing Classes, Sewing Machines and Sewing Machine Reviews!
Platinum Sponsor: Stylish Fabric
Over 20,000 of high quality reorderable fabric

[SIGNUP - FREE Membership & 1 FREE Sewing Lesson ]
[Sewing Classes|Shopping Bag Your Shopping Bag|Login|Help]
Sewing Review and Pattern Reviews Sewing Knowledge Base Sewing Patterns Sewing Classes & Sewing Lessons Sewing Machine & Embroidery Machinery Sewing Message Boards Sewing merchants Blog Help/FAQ About Pattern Review
Enter your e-mail address:




Advanced Search
Tags
New to PR?
Sewing Machines
Compare Sewing Machines
Sewing Machine & Serger Reviews
Embroidery Machines
Sewing Reviews
Sewing Patterns
Review Gallery
Sewing Books
Sewing Supplies
Sewing Websites
Sewing Stores
Sewing Class Reviews
Sewing Expo Reviews
Sewing Tips & Techniques
Sewing Podcasts
NEW!Fabric Glossary
Sewing Review Requests Add a Review Request
Your Account
Edit Profile
My Page
Favorites
Wish List
Pattern Catalog
Notifications
Friends of PR
Join Friends of PR
Find a member
Deal Corner
Photo Album
Calendar
Chat Room
Chat Schedule
Chat Transcripts
Sewing Classifieds
Add a Classified
Sewing Contests
enter contest
contest report
contest gallery
Favorite Links
reviews with comments
merchant gallery
article archive
newsletter archive
Craft Resources
contact info
shipping rates
returns & refunds
testimonials

Platinum Sponsor - Stylish Fabric
Stylish Fabric
You are not logged in. Login here.



Message Board > Sewing Techniques and Tips > Thread tracing ( Moderated by MissCelie)

Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
Go to Page:
Thread tracing
How to trace both pieces
sewlily
star
sewlily
Advanced Beginner
IA USA
Member since 2/21/04
Posts: 423
Login to reply to this post

Date: 12/5/05 1:27 PM

Is there some trick to tracing through a double layer of cloth or do you thread trace each item separately (i.e., each sleeve separately, etc.)

Mary Stiefer
starstarstarstar
Mary Stiefer  Friend of PR
Intermediate
CO USA
Member since 2/17/03
Posts: 1709
Login to reply to this post

In reply to sewlily


Date: 12/5/05 1:53 PM

I'm not sure I know what you mean when you say "thread trace" . Are you using basting stitches for marking notches and dot?? Could you explain a bit more?

------
What is Maxine saying??
"I don't iron. If I'm not wrinkle-free why should my clothes be."

sewlily
star
sewlily
Advanced Beginner
IA USA
Member since 2/21/04
Posts: 423
Login to reply to this post

Date: 12/5/05 2:33 PM

Claire Shaeffer and Susan Kaljie talk about "thread tracing" the seam lines from the pattern onto the fabric and then cutting out large seam allowances (maybe 2"). When you pin, you match the seam lines and not the fabric edges. It is claimed that this results in a more accurate construction.

I have a Marfy pattern that I am going to attempt to make over the holiday. I made the muslin and am awaiting my fashion fabric. As I was contemplating the thread tracing, I thought how tedious it would be to trace out each pattern piece twice (there are no "on the fold" pieces except for the collar). I just wondered if there was some trick to the thread tracing - some shortcut.

I hope I am explaining this correctly.

gabrielle

gabrielle
Beginner
WA USA
Member since 3/27/02
Posts: 1540
Login to reply to this post

In reply to sewlily


Date: 12/5/05 2:34 PM

You know, I think thread-tracing (where you run a stitch all around the pattern outline as well as internal pattern markings) is probably best done on single layers of fabric. The best technique I've seen is to cut out full pattern pieces, remove any seam allowances, then run a basting stitch along the seam lines and on any internal markings, including notches, darts, grain-lines, and center front and center back. With this method you can cut your seam allowances as wide as you like, since your stitching line is marked. Great for fitting and precision sewing.

I would only use thread markings on a double-layer if I was going to do what I would call "tailor's tacks," which is using thread to mark darts and other internal marks. For tailor's tacks I thread a needle with four strands of thread, then run the needle through and back once. If I carefully separate the layers I can clip between, leaving a good-sized knot of thread visible on each piece of fabric. I sure hope that makes sense...probably lots of other ways of going about it, too. :)

GoSewGirl
GoSewGirl  Friend of PR
Advanced
NY USA
Member since 4/14/04
Posts: 447
Login to reply to this post

In reply to sewlily


Date: 12/5/05 9:45 PM

Thread tracings are done on a single layer, to mark all stitching lines, grain lines and notches, etc for each piece in the garment. Once you've basted the pieces together for stitching, you can remove the thread tracings along the seam line you're about to stitch - its easier to remove it before stitching over it!

HTH

Oh, and the "stitch" is usually 1 very long stitch (about 1" or more, depending on the detail needed) with 3 or 4 small (about 1/8" or 1/4") running stitches in between the longer ones.

It helps your accuracy a lot, but it IS extremely tedious!

-- Edited on 12/5/05 10:48 PM --
-- Edited on 12/5/05 10:49 PM --
-- Edited on 12/5/05 10:51 PM --

------
Liz

utz
star
utz
Intermediate
IL USA
Member since 12/9/04
Posts: 415
Login to reply to this post

thumbsup 1 member likes this.
Date: 12/6/05 7:13 AM

May I encourage you to thread trace stitching lines. Once I began doing this my fitting techniques greatly improved and now I can't imagine not thread tracing. (You can see stitch line on both sides!)

You can pin edges together from the outside (fold over one edge at stitch line and match it on other seam line and put pins perpendicular to stitch line.) You may find that you need just a little more or less and pin to correct. Then correct stitch line with new thread trace there. After using thread tracing I found to my astonishment that sometimes it is just a matter of a 1/4' (or less) difference and the garment hangs right without draw line wrinkles.

Many patterns have a very subtle curve that a thread trace will show, but you can't possibly keep track of it you were to just 'move over 5/8' . (E.g. Burda WOF subtle curves make for its great fit.)

I think thread tracing saves time in the long run because it allows for accuracy and last minute changes that greatly improves the look of a garment. To take a little tedium out of the tediousness I purchase silk thread (red) to thread trace. It's beautiful to handle, and if you sew over it when seaming it pulls out fairly readily (sometimes with a tweezer.) I use a long needle, I sit at a table and listen to good music. (Roberta Carr recommended long stitch, short, long stitch short to prevent any gathering.) With practice it goes rather quickly.

Also, once you start thread tracing it opens other techniques where thread tracing is a godsend - matching plaids at seamline, tailoring technques etc.

------
'Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.' Oscar Wilde

GorgeousFabrics
starstarstarstar
GorgeousFabrics
Expert/Couture
USA
Member since 8/12/02
Posts: 2934
Login to reply to this post

Date: 12/6/05 7:31 AM

I'll add my voice to the chorus of thread tracing fans. It really does help increase your accuracy. When I am making somthing that I want to be of very haute level sewing, I always cut the pieces from a single layer and thread trace the seams. This may add time in the beginning, but the results are SO worth it, and it actually ends up saving time and aggravation during the sewing process. One side benefit of using a single-layer layout on your fabric is that you usually use far less than the pattern calls for. I think with Marfy patterns you'll find you have more control if you use single layer layout.

HTH!
Ann

------
Gorgeous Fabrics - the name says it all!
http://www.gorgeousfabrics.com
http://blog.gorgeousfabrics.com/

kmouse
star
kmouse
Intermediate
MO USA
Member since 9/13/03
Posts: 301
Login to reply to this post

In reply to GorgeousFabrics


Date: 12/6/05 7:56 AM

This is new to me. I suppose this has to be done by hand, especially on some fabrics to prevent distortion of machine basting? Is the type of thread important? While I don't have anything on the "haute" level, I do have some projects in mind to try this.

GorgeousFabrics
starstarstarstar
GorgeousFabrics
Expert/Couture
USA
Member since 8/12/02
Posts: 2934
Login to reply to this post

In reply to kmouse


Date: 12/6/05 8:04 AM

I don't have any real preference on threads, though if I am making something from a very fussy fabric (certain silks or very tightly woven materials) I will use a fine guage silk thread. Other than that, I use a thread in a color that I can spot easily against my fabric.

Ann

------
Gorgeous Fabrics - the name says it all!
http://www.gorgeousfabrics.com
http://blog.gorgeousfabrics.com/

GoSewGirl
GoSewGirl  Friend of PR
Advanced
NY USA
Member since 4/14/04
Posts: 447
Login to reply to this post

In reply to kmouse


Date: 12/6/05 3:31 PM

To add a tip to the thread question, like Ann, I'm not necessarily so picky about what type of thread, unless it's on a very fine fabric. I do like to use a contrasting color though, and again, another different color for basting thread. It just makes it easier to remove later on.

------
Liz

Go to Page:
Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com. If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Post button to report it. Sewing Techniques and Tips >> Thread tracing

Merchants on PR
Victoria Jones Collection
Timeless Hawaiian styles
Web site
So Vintage Patterns
Thank You for Joining!
Deals!
Fitz Like a Glove Ironing Board Cover
Made In Australia
Deals!
SewBaby
Unique Sewing Patterns
Deals!
Budo Bear Designs
Asian Designs
Web site

Copyright © 2014 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.
Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Online Sewing Classes
Create a Jacket Muslin
Fee: $29.00
(Regular $49.00)
Create a Jacket Muslin

Online Sewing Classes
The Contemporary Couture Jacket
Fee: $49.00
(Regular $49.00)
The Contemporary Couture Jacket

McCall's 8026
photo
Review by Peter in N... on 7/7/10
Read Review

Jamie Christina Palooza Apron Pattern (JC309PA)
Jamie Christina Palooza Apron Pattern (JC309PA)

Details
Price: $14.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Favorite Things Blossoms & Bloomers Pattern
Favorite Things Blossoms & Bloomers Pattern

Details
Price: $14.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Peek-A Boo Sweetheart Halter Digital Pattern ( Size 6 mo -12 years )
Peek-A Boo Sweetheart Halter Digital Pattern ( Size 6 mo -12 years )

Details
Price: $7.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

MariaDenmark Laura Lounge Digital Pattern
MariaDenmark Laura Lounge Digital Pattern

Details
Price: $5.20
Add to Bag Add to Bag

BurdaStyle Downloadable 001
photo
Review by Karen6790 on 1/15/09
Read Review

Vogue 8795 Pattern ( Size 14-16-18-20-22 )
Vogue 8795 Pattern ( Size 14-16-18-20-22 )

Details
Price: $30.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

McCalls 5214 Pattern ( Size SML-XLG )
McCalls 5214 Pattern ( Size SML-XLG )

Details
Price: $15.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Subscribe to PR Message Board Feed Subscribe to the PR Message Board Feed Add to My Yahoo! Subscribe at NewsGator Online Subscribe at Bloglines Add to MyMSN