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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Coverstitch Questions ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 1/2/06 6:11 PM

Ok I bought an industrial coverstitch machine. It is a low end model, I wanted to give this a go and see how much I like it or dislike it without spending out mega bucks. This will do a 2 or 3 needle coverstitch. The manual is very skimpy on directions. So first question is when you do a 2 needle coverstitch which needles do you use? (1&2) (1&3) (2&3)? Or does it even matter? What is the best fabric to use for the binding operation? I bought some 50% polyester/50% cotton and am having a hard time getting it to feed through the foot and feed dogs, but this may be a foot issue? I am still working on that one. (The screws holding the foot in position don't seem to be holding very well, it appears loose where the screw is) I would like to be able to bind items using the same fabric has whatever it is I am making, which looks as if that is what most everyone does. Hints, Helps and Tips Welcome. On the positive side I did figure out how to use this binder attachment, lol, when I first ran my binding through it I thought it didn't look right and I had possibly bought the wrong thing, but then I looked at the pictures again and saw that I had to pull the binding through the back guides and presto! Double fold bias/binding! Yippee, did the happy dance for that one.

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Date: 1/2/06 6:28 PM

Lucky you! Which one did you buy???? How fortunate for you to find an inexpensive industrial model. The cheapest I could find one used was $1200. :-(

It doesn't matter which needles you use for 2-thread. If I'm using the top cover I have to use the right needle otherwise it won't catch. But if I'm working with binding I prefer to use the left and center so that the stitch is closer to the fold.

There are binding feet available for industrial coverstitch machines - they only have the left toe just like binding feet for your regular machine. That will allow you to get the binding attachment in closer to the foot and feed dogs.

Does your machine use a post binder or a plate binder? On my post binders I had to make slight adjustments to the post and to the binder itself to get everything positioned perfectly. There's an adjustment screw on the back of the binder itself. If you're using a plate binder the screw should not be loose. Have you tried a different type of thumb screw?

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Date: 1/2/06 7:39 PM

Here is a pic of my coverstitch, it is a Yamata GK357B, I paid $115 plus around $25 for shipping. That is probably why the instructions are very skimpy and mostly in Chinese. Before I bought it I looked for plate binder attachments for it and found some, plus a belt loop maker. The price and being able to find those made me choose to buy this one. It is like my serger, I will figure it out, with a lot of questions!

It is easier to thread then my serger. So far just running fabric through it, that stitches beautifully, but for some reason when I try to run the binding through it isn't feeding? I am using 1 1/2 inch binding which when folded measures 3/8 inch going through the foot and needles. I am still playing around with that part. I am a little leery of the foot, kind of scary just having 3 oblong holes, I would rather have the whole space open, if you understand what I mean, lol. I will be on the search for other feet to fit this also.


Yamata GK357B 3-Needle All-Metal Portable Coverstitch Machine

Specifications

Up To 1500 Stitches Per Minute
Single Needle Chainstitch
2 Needle 3 Or 6mm Coverstitch width
3 Needle 6mm Coverstitch width
Equals 1/8 Or 1/4 Inch Width
All Metal Portable Coverstitch Machine
Needle gap 4.5 mm
Stitch length 1.2 mm
Round easy-to-use tension knobs
Dimensions: 12.2" (L) x 11.8" (W) x 13.4" (H)
Weight: 22 lbs
This machines is not recommended for beginners !

I was equally influenced after seeing your new machine Gigi!

The screw that seems loose is the one holding the foot? I have tightened it as tight as I can but the foot is still moving around? I guess my mechanical abilities will come into play also on this, lol.

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Date: 1/2/06 7:53 PM

Oops I fogot to give credit to SewingSkater also for being another enabler,

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Date: 1/2/06 8:09 PM

Renee, it looks like you are using a regular screw to hold the plate on. You should try a thumb screw. If it's still loose then you'll want to add a washer.

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Date: 1/2/06 9:09 PM

Hi Renee,
You may be able to glean some information from the Brother manual.
brother CS manual download

Enjoy using your new machine

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Date: 1/2/06 9:16 PM

On the binder attachment I am using a regular screw with a washer on the top, underneath is another washer and a wing nut. I had to drill my own holes to place it, even though it was listed as fitting my machine, no big deal. There is only a 180 day warranty on this so if something does go wrong I will take it to my local repair guy he is great! I wouldn't want to pay the shipping costs to have it repaired when I can take it to him.
That isn't the part that is loose it is the presser foot under the needles, the screw for some reason won't hold the presser foot tight when I lower it to the feed dogs no matter how hard I tighten it? It works ok on 2 layers of fabric but won't hold it tight to grab and feed the binding through. It is getting late, so I will sleep on it and play with it again tomorrow,

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Date: 1/2/06 9:30 PM

Thank you for that link, I had done a web search on manuals but didn't come up with anything usable. I even did a search on eBay and still zilch. Maybe I wasn't using the correct search words?
I am printing it out now and am sure I will be able to pick up some tips and techniques!

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Date: 1/3/06 9:28 AM

There is a knob on top of the machine - directly above the presser foot - that will allow you to increase the foot pressure. Try that.

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Date: 1/3/06 11:13 AM

I tried that also, with no luck I was up until 1:30am playing around with this, trying different things, I knew I wouldn't get any sleep until I had done a few more things with it.
Train of thought (keep in mind the time)
Brilliant idea #1.
It has a slant shank just like my serger, so I took the attachment from my serger and put it on this coverstitch machine, only problem there though is the presser foot for my serger is to long, hence the plate binder attachment wouldn't fit on there if I used this method. But I did notice that the bottom of the presser foot hit the feed dogs so much better than the flat presser foot that came with my machine.
Brilliant idea #2.
The presser foot that came with my coverstitch machine seems to be sticking up in the front. There is a wire wrapped around a screw that is suppose to hold this down tight towards the front. In looking at the serger foot I noticed that the wire on this is wrapped around the screw several times, giving it a somewhat spring action and definitely more torque, So I bent the wire on the coverstitch foot so that it would exert more pressure towards the front.
Brilliant idea #3.
Thanks to Gigi, one of my enablers, lol
Went searching for a binder foot attachment and found one that should do the trick, spring action on both sides of the presser foot, with an adjustable guide on the front to keep your binding where you want it to go.
Brilliant idea #4.
I oiled the whole thing down really good before I went to bed!
That seemed to help with the raising and lowering of the presser foot, runs more smoothly.

I am ready to do some sewing!!! So when my new accesories arrive I will let you know if I am successful. In the meantime though I love the coverstitch without the binder attachment, and the single needle stitch is lovely also!
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