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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Second hand Bernina Sewing Machine ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Juli_et

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Date: 2/3/06 10:23 AM

Hi everyone,

I already have a 35 years old Omega machine and I am looking for another good mechanical one. I found a Bernina Sewing Machine (sorry for the French). It is 250$ CAD. I've called and I am going to see it tonight. The person who owned the machine passed away and her daughter is selling it. She could not tell me a lot about the machine. She thinks it is about 20 years old, it works but haven't been used for a long time. She told me I can try it. I don't see a lot of Bernina in classifieds. Since it is an old one, I guess it is Swiss made so that can be interesting. What do you think?

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Date: 2/3/06 10:33 AM

It looks like a 530 but I can't be sure. That would make it quite a lot older than 20 years. I love Berninas but getting parts for the older models can be a problem now. A few years ago there was a mudslide in the Steckborn warehouse and all of the old parts were lost. I even had trouble getting parts for my 830 which is from the 80s. Just something to keep in mind.

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Date: 2/3/06 11:15 AM

Thanks Gigi. Problems to get parts...that's a good point. I have the feeling if it is in good condition I won't need parts for a long time. It is usually all metal so I should not expect breaking parts???

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Date: 2/3/06 11:20 AM

I sent the link to Dave Neuenschwander who is a Bernina expert, and rcvd the following reply:

"Hi Bill,

Appears to be a Bernina model 614, which is a machine manufactured for Bernina by a sewing machine company in Portugal.

Dave"

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Date: 2/3/06 1:52 PM

Bill to the rescue once again! I learned something new today - thank you!

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Date: 2/4/06 2:04 AM

I recently sold my 30 year old Bernina to upgrade to a new one and that was in the 800 series. This machine looks a whole lot older than mine and I notice it's now been identified. Everyone swears by the 830 which was a mechanical one and they are often on Ebay. I think mine was an 817 and it was still very good and going well. I suppose I'd wonder if you really need such an old machine.

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Date: 2/4/06 9:39 AM

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A few years ago there was a mudslide in the Steckborn warehouse and all of the old parts were lost.


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Date: 2/4/06 5:28 PM

I believe we had a thread going sometime back about replacement parts for older Bernina's and Elna's and the 705B needle system is no longer being produced once supplies are gone. Like if a motor or a hook needs replacing now a tech can install a newer version of the part to help solve this problem while some adjustments to the machine might have to be made to do so. My Bernina dealer sent out a flyer concerning this back in April. The article mentioned using 130/705H needles in these older models even though it was not the system the machines were designed to use but the article said these needles would work up to size 90 without damaging the machine. This article also suggested to update the hook system on these older models like the 730 and 830 Record. I have never owned a Bernina but I did find this article interesting.

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Date: 2/4/06 6:20 PM

There is absolutely no reason not to use a 705H in the older Berninas. This was a myth that has been perpetuated, and originated because somebody at the Bernina factory "a million years ago" decided that the H on Schmetz's new style 705 needle, stood for Husqvarna. OTOH, there is a very good reason not to use a 705B (if you happened to have one) in a machine that was adjusted for the 705H, as the hook could touch where the scarf should be. It also doesn't matter about the size of the needle, because the needle only "grows" away from the hook.

I have PDF documents that I have prepared that explain most of this about the needles, and another about the different types of hooks, that I am happy to supply as attachments to an e-mail reply to your request, as long as the request includes your actual name and not an alias.

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Date: 2/4/06 6:24 PM

I always used 705H needles in my 830.

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