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Date: 1/24/08 5:45 AM

I hope somebody know the answer and post it here.
Today I tried a NYLON/ LYCRA binding around the leg holes of my swim pants using my ebay binder and coverstitch. The fold created by the attachment is inconsistent, and the binding twists under the foot.
But if I use the binding made of COTTON or POLY with LYCRA with the same swim pants (using the same needles, threads, settings and foot) I have no trouble at all. So it must be that the fabric more slippery than other fabrics I use.
I tried to change tension, stitch length, the cutting width of the binding, the positions of the screws of the attachment - nothing helps! I realised now that for the whole year or so I've owned the binder, I've never used nylon/ lycra bindings with it before.
So, how do you guys do the trick? Please, help!

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Date: 1/24/08 7:01 AM

Did you try the differential feed? I find if the binding twists this can help. Not always though. I have had some fabrics that twist no matter what I did. It wasn't necessarily the type of fabric, but the fabric itself. Usually poor quality, too thin, knitted off-grain, etc.

ETA: I thought of something else. Is the fabric strip too wide? Sometimes if the strip is a smidge too wide, I'm talking 2-3mm, then it doesn't feed properly. It can be hard to tell, but if all else fails try making it ever so slightly narrower and see what happens.

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Date: 1/24/08 10:53 PM

Thanks Belinda for your reply!
Differential doesn't help either. But I looked carefully at my bindings, some of them are just a mere 3-5 mm off grain on the the 50 -60 cm length. Can it be that this tiny amount could affect so badly?
I also tried to starch the binding, didn't make any difference.
Never thought before that nylon/ lycra binding could be so much more difficult to handle. I made a dozen garments (including swim suits with elastic around edges) made of nylon/ lycra and never accounted any problem!
Just to clarify the direction of cutting. Nylon /lycra swim fabric is a two-way stretch fabric. Does it really matter how to cut binding -across or lengthwise? I am asking bc I noticed if you cut it lengthwise, the edges don't curl inside, which seems to make it easier to feed the binding thru the attachment.

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Date: 1/24/08 11:16 PM

>>Just to clarify the direction of cutting. Nylon /lycra swim fabric is a two-way stretch fabric. Does it really matter how to cut binding -across or lengthwise? <<

Nylon/lycra fabrics vary a lot in terms of stretch and quality for that matter. Some you cut lengthwise, some crosswise. I wouldn't have thought it would make that much difference, but you never know. Many times these things are a matter of trial and error. Every fabric has it's quirks.

I don't think cutting off grain by 3-5mm would make a difference though.

Good luck. It can be frustrating at times.

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Date: 1/25/08 4:05 AM

I did it!!!!!
Thanks Belinda!I at last binded the edges of my swim pants.
Your suggestion and confidence that it could be done helped me. What I did I cut binding exactly ACROSS the stretch. Having trouble to see the grain of the fabric, I went outside with my fabric placed on a piece of cardboard. Then I moved it for a while trying to get the best visibility of the grain and marked it.
I also smudged a bit the cutting width making it 1 1/16" instead of 1 1/8". (from my previous trial I knew that 1" width would be too narrow). (The ebay attachment designated cutting width is 1 1/8")
And woo-hoo! Done!
I'll post the pic once I assemble the pants.

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Date: 1/25/08 7:20 AM

Woohoo! I'm so glad you got it to work. It always feels so good when you finally get something to work after fighting with it.

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Date: 1/25/08 7:23 AM

Thanks for posting this. I once had trouble with using this fabric for binding. I ended up hand basting it on. I now know to try cutting the fabric in the opposite direction to see if that makes a difference.

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Date: 1/25/08 9:21 PM

Susan, I am glad you found this info useful!
I thought both directions were equal, as their stretchability, and the looks are very much the same.
What Belinda said in her reply about nylon /lycra fabrics being all different( made me check again.
It can be very confusing to find that right direction, as I had to use a magnifying glass to do so.
I know now the binding with the long edges curling in a bit is not the right one. The binding that worked for me holds its edges almost straight.
Now I pinned both samples in my files for future references.

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Date: 3/25/13 8:34 PM

Nylon binding:
I have a vintage sheer nylon nightgown set. The label says "Styles by Lady Barbara, 100% Nylon." I want to cut bias strips for binding. Is this the same fabric used in nylon binding?

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