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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Kenmore Limited Edition 17-Stitch SM ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Kenmore Limited Edition 17-Stitch SM
Anyone familiar with this model?
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Date: 11/22/08 7:38 PM

This is sold at Sears Canada, but I thought someone on here might have seen it locally. It has pink trim, so I'm wondering if it might even be a special item made in support breast cancer research (it doesn't say so, so perhaps not).
Here's a link to the online catalogue page -- here -- and here's a photo:



Thanks for anything you might happen to know about this model.
P.S. They may actually have the wrong photo posted. I'm seeing exactly the same photo in the paper catalogue listed as a 27 stitch machine. So... refer to the description rather than the photo, I suppose.

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Date: 11/22/08 8:19 PM

Looks like a pink version of the machine sold in the US as #16221 with a sea-foam green trim, and then now it is with red, and called the 18221. These are good Janome made machines. I see that various models seem to be changed a tiny bit and sold with different names in the various countries Janome sells in. I think this would be a good machine.Also the one with the 27 stitches..it is a different model.

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Date: 11/22/08 9:13 PM

It looks similar to the model 18221 sold here.

Kenmore 18221

Yippee! It looks like you might be shopping for your Christmas present right? I am so happy for you!

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Date: 11/23/08 12:26 PM

Thanks for the information, Mufffet and Carol! Reading the specs on those, I think this may be a slight variation -- maybe even one not sold in the U.S.? -- but I'm guessing it's in the same basic category.

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Yippee! It looks like you might be shopping for your Christmas present right? I am so happy for you!

It's so nice to hear your "Yippee!" of support! Yes, I'm exploring my options. I haven't decided 100% yet about getting a new machine. The local repair guy said yesterday, from my description, that it sounds like my current machine could probably be fixed quite easily, but of course he needs to see it first (i.e. I have to be without it for a week or so).
Even though I REALLY don't like making major purchases from Sears, I started exploring the Kenmores because at the sewing machine store the cheapest machine with a 1-step buttonholer is $400-500 used and about $600 new (sigh, higher mark-ups in Canada). I'm a bit hesitant about Kenmore because I don't know how they can sell machines for so much less unless they're made more cheaply. I'll try to have a look at some Kenmores in Sears retail stores before I make up my mind.
Plan B would be to have my current machine repaired and buy one of those old buttonholer attachments so that I can make 1-step buttonholes. The service guy actually swayed me a bit this way... he reminded me that my machine sounds like it's working fine other than a couple of stitches it won't do, which can be fixed. (I really appreciate this rare old-fashioned honesty, since they also sell machines, so it would have been easy for him to use this as an opportunity to sell me something.)
So... part of me is thinking it might be wise to get my machine fixed and bide my time until I can get something slightly higher end. (Insert angel icon) Another part of me wants to call Sears and order this baby today!

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Date: 11/23/08 1:58 PM

I wouldn't worry about the Kenmore being made cheaply compared to other brands. Janome makes machines for many companies and I don't think they would make a machine of low quality for anyone else that would damage their own reptutation of quality.
I do find now however that with newer models of different brands and depending on where they are made that many models no matter if TOL or low end machines don't seem to have the quality of machines made even a couple of years ago.

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Date: 11/23/08 4:07 PM

The Sears site info is confusing...but it does seem that the pic you posted is indeed the correct picture. It is the 17 stitch "Limited Edition" model # 200 316 765 10 that was regularly 269.99 and on sale for 199.99 until Dec 7. It has the pink accent color and a horizontal bobbin.

There is also a similar looking sm which is 27 stitches and is model 200 316 782 10. It is currently the regular price of 269.97 (yes, 97 not 99). It has an array of accessories pictured with it...including a walking foot.

It can't find a picture displaying the accessories with the Limited Edition model. It is listed as having a hard cover (which usually is a *cover* and not a carrying case). Could you find the page that states what feet come with it?

The is also another 17 stitch sewing machine that is all white and has a vertical bobbin for 199.97 (that 97 again...not 99) ..it is model 200 315 758 10...so it is indeed a totally
different model.

The Limited Edition would be a fine sm. Go for it! Doesn't Sears there have a 90 day return policy? Check out the return guidelines, take that sm home and love it alot or bring it back. How much can you lose?!



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Date: 11/23/08 5:26 PM

Thanks, Betakin and bestgrammy. I'm still thinking this over, but I made the mistake of going to the local Sears store today and now have seen the thing in person. It is gosh darn pretty (the pink trim is classy), and is quite substantial in weight, although not so heavy that it would be horrible to carry. I think solid/heavy build is supposed to be a good sign in a SM. I took note of the model no. (16765), which doesn't help a diddle because it seems to be a number used only on Canadian models and I can't find any more information on it than what's on the Sears Canada website -- one good review.
They also had another machine, cheaper -- 12 stitches rather than 17, but it too had a 1-step buttonholer. The cheaper one is model no. 15752, which someone on PR was wanting to find information on last summer, but couldn't because of the unique numbering Canadian Kenmores use.
Of the two, the 17-stitch one is calling to me louder...
That 27-stitch machine you mentioned, bestgrammy, is apparently a slightly higher end machine still -- I called the Sears catalogue people about this yesterday. It apparently never goes below that price and is some kind of special deal. They didn't have one in the store, but I can't really spend $269 at the moment anyway. If I'm at a larger Sears soon I may check out what it's like, though.

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269.97 (yes, 97 not 99)

Bestgrammy, that .97 pricing is used quite a lot here in some major stores -- they have items that end in .99 AND items that end in .97 in the same store, and sometimes have sales that say "sale excludes items ending in .97" or whatever. Maybe the .97 ones are special-purchase items or something, I'm not sure.


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Date: 11/23/08 5:27 PM

Quote: Betakin
I do find now however that with newer models of different brands and depending on where they are made that many models no matter if TOL or low end machines don't seem to have the quality of machines made even a couple of years ago.

I'm glad you said that because it's exacly how I feel, too. It wasn't long ago that I purchased the Kenmore 19606 and then the one down from that (maybe 1-1/2 years ago)................both had problems and were returned. Then several months ago I tried the (forget the model #) higher end mechanical with electronics that had a stop-start button, but had problems with that one, too. How I love the idea of using a sm without the foot pedal. The problems I had with these 3 models are posted somewhere on PR. Was so psyched up on that 19606. I'm sure all these models *were* good machines at one time. Maybe some of them still are and I just happened to purchase lemons. Hard to believe, but it's possible.
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Date: 11/23/08 5:32 PM

Couldn't you print out the specs on the pink machine and then compare to the US look alike? If I can link to the similar machine on the Sears site, I'll do that for you. I'll try right now and then come back.
Click here. You'll need to click on "specs."


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Date: 11/23/08 5:36 PM

I compared it to two U.S. look-alikes but they were slightly different machines than this one. Here are the specs listed on the Sears Canada page for the pink-trimmed machine:

* 64 stitch functions
* 5 mm stitch width
* 4 mm stitch length
* horizontal bobbin
* 1-step buttonholder
* snap-on foot fixing system
* drop feed
* thread cutter
* built-in light
* comes with carrying handle and hard storage cover



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