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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Babylock EF 405 vs ELNA T34 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 4/25/09 5:43 AM

Hi!

I am new and this is my first post. I am thinking of getting a serger for my home sewing on crafts and kids' clothing (I had no prior experience in using a serger before but sews with SM ) And I came across this prel-loved Babylock EF-405 (3 thread) when I was at the store earlier and it cost about $180USD and another Elna T34(4 thread with differential Feed) at $197USD. The elderly lady at the shop sang high praises of the apparent vintage babylock which is fully METAL and was sturdily made in japan.

I have not seen any reviews on this forum so I am wondering if anyone out there can give me some precious advise on these 2 models and should I go for an older model which is Mmostly metal or go for a plastic machine that gives me more function?



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Date: 4/25/09 6:53 AM

Hi..and welcome to PR.
I have owned several brands of sergers. One was an older Babylock that was made in Japan and I now own an Elna Coverlock also made in Japan. Both I feel of excellent quality.
The BL EF405 might be a well made serger but this is a very old model and though Babylocks have always been a bit higher in price than other brands, I feel $180 is a bit much when you can purchase newer models of different brands for not much more. I know that I would certainly miss having differential feed and a 4th thread plus the ease of use of newer models.
Newer model sergers do have the plastic housing where the older models did not but newer models also have ease of use in changing functions compared to the older models. Some of the older Babylocks required several revolutions of the tension dial to change the tension. Some did not have easy adjustments even to change the stitch width or length and some models did not even have a light.
Another main difference in the older models like my old Babylock is that they take a round shank industrial needle that is hard to change and set correctly though it is a strong needle. Some of these needles are not as readily available as others.
I am not familiar with the Elna T34 but IMO for the difference in price just the differential feed alone is worth it plus having the 4th thread.
I do hope you try both of these sergers out yourself and you might see a big difference between them. I hope you do also try out some newer models. You might find a new model that you like even more and for just a bit more in price.
Whatever serger you decide upon, I do hope you love it.
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Date: 4/25/09 9:18 AM

HI Betakin,

Thanks for your note. Yes, this babylock I see is definitely without light and as I tried out the machine, it is the most basic of all... I will go try on other models before deciding.... Thanks again!


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Date: 4/25/09 3:33 PM

You are welcome..glad if I helped in some way. My old Babylock was a 4 thread model and one of the first with differential feed. It was a wonderful serger but not as easy as the newer models to use. The BL EF 405 is really a much older model than my old Babylock was.
I think one uses a machine or serger more if it is comfortable to use. I sure hope you find a nice one that you enjoy using often.

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Date: 4/26/09 2:23 AM

Hi Betakin,

Have you ever get your serger over on ebay? Do you think it is risky especially for someone whom had not used one before. I bought a serviced pfaff 1471 over a few months ago and it had been my favorite machine by far. So I am thinking of doing that again by buying it off ebay but DH said the risk is too much especially it is some completely new so I had borrowed some books on serging to "back me up" as I learn...

The new machines here in Singapore cost at least $400 for a simple 4 thread Janome or $670 for a Elna 654. Sometimes I do wish I live in the states as machines and resources are much more economical than where I am living now.

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Date: 4/26/09 3:28 AM

No, I've never purchased a serger on ebay but I have purchased a couple of sewing machines from dealers that sell on ebay. One dealer was closing out their business and the other dealer has a well known website and also sells on ebay and has buy it now items. I did purchase a Janome (New Home) very basic serger from a dealer on line a few years ago. This dealer also sells on ebay but I called the on line store and purchased it at a very low price.
If buying on ebay you might purchase a serger for a very good price by winning a bid from a private party but if you purchase on ebay from a reliable dealer you usually have a warranty but if the item needs service you need to ship it back to them. I don't know which dealers ship to Singapore.

It is very wise of you to purchase books on serging now and even more if possible. Videos are also a good teaching tool and there are several videos about serging on line at Sewing with Nancy and also on You Tube. You will have more fun with your serger by already knowing your sergers capabilities, different stitches and types of threads you can use etc. Many new sergers come with videos.
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