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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Who really makes Kenmore sewing machines? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Who really makes Kenmore sewing machines?
Talked to a salesperson at Sears today
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Date: 6/24/09 5:59 PM

The salesperson I talked with at Sears today told me that Arrow now makes all of the sewing machines for Sears. I told him, hmmm... I thought Janome made them. No, he said - you wouldn't believe who owns what these days - just try and buy a refrigerator.

Despite this I still bought the 18221 on sale. I got the last one in the store. The salesperson said he can't keep them in the store. I guess they started out with 20-something and this was it.

So I came home and did some Googling - "who makes Kenmore sewing machines" - wiki said Janome, but no date on the entry. No other helpful links that I could find. "who owns sears Kenmore appliances" - gave me another link that listed different appliances and who manufactures them, but no mention of the sewing machines.

Why do I care? Well, I don't know much about Arrow, but I trust Janome. I still bought it because I'm not sure that I believed the guy.

But how does one go about finding out who makes the particular model of sewing machine?

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Date: 6/24/09 6:44 PM

I could be wrong (not to mention crazy), but I'm 99.9% sure that Arrow doesn't make SMs, only tables/workcenters.

I don't really know if Janome makes Kenmore machines anymore ... I've heard conflicting accounts. I've heard some say Janome manufactured ALL the 385. models, and I've heard they only made a select few (my 385.1915 was made by Janome ~ it's almost *exactly* like my MemoryCraft 9000).

I'll do some Googling, too. Just outta curiosity! :)

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Date: 6/24/09 6:55 PM

A quickie Google search "reveals" that Kenmore machines are now manufactured by the same company that manufactures Singers ~ a company called "JAMAC." Whoever that is.

Of course, as always, since the internet is not actually the most accurate source for info 100% of the time, YMMV. :/

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Date: 6/24/09 7:55 PM

Jamac is a division of Janome. The sewing machines with the first 3 numbers 385..before the model number means it came from Janome.
Sears has had several other sewing machine brands with different prefix's before the model numbers of their Kenmore sewing machines in the past. Some of the machines were made by White where the first three numbers would be 117 and 340 would be Necchi and I believe 516 would be by Gritzner Kaiser etc.
As for Arrow and Kenmore appliances, this is new to me but there is an Arrow Distributors and maybe they do have something to do with the distribution of different Kenmore appliances.

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Date: 6/24/09 8:07 PM

Arrow sewing machine

Two years ago I was told by someone who works inside the sewing machine industry that Janome in the near future wouldn't be making Kenmore machines for Sears anymore. Sears has had a major clearance on their Kenmore's for a few months. The link above is the only reference I found for Arrow sewing machine company.

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Date: 6/25/09 11:26 AM

Sears contracts with many different manufacturers for their products and they do change manufacturers from time to time. Perhaps they have decided to go with a different mfg. for their sewing machines now. It is a shame if they have, in my opinion, because Janome is so widely respected by sewers, sewists, whatever you prefer to call people who sew, and I can't imagine them finding another source for their machines that would give them a better product than Janome. But, as Betakin said, life goes on.

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Date: 6/25/09 11:30 AM

Just buy what you like and use it.

You could lose your mind trying to figure out if the machine is being manufactured with the same specifications but by another company.

General Mills makes cake mixes, but the whole world can bake the cake if they follow the "specifications" (instructions).

Regardless of the ground under them - China or Taiwan, I wonder what the Chinese citizenry think when they purchase a sewing machine?



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Date: 6/25/09 6:50 PM

Sears source #s for sewing machines:

117=White (Also 2 models from Gritzner-Kayser in Germany that White imported for Sears.

120=New Process Gear Corporation. (A division of Chrysler when these were made in the 1950s.

148=Soryu in Japan

158=Maruzen in Japan (later Jaguar)

385=Janome

Arrow is a cabinet company.

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Date: 6/25/09 9:31 PM

Congratulations! I know you've been debating on what to get for awhile and you've got yourself a really nice machine. I'm sure you feel like it's a big improvement over your old machine and you can get a lot of specialty feet for it. Enjoy!

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Date: 6/25/09 11:11 PM

the kenmore appliances are made buy Whirlpool. My father was a appliances repair person. arrow is sewing cabinnets.
i think sears is going with singer or brother to make there machines now.

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