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Message Board > Sewing Machines > mild clicking noise on my Singer 301 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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mild clicking noise on my Singer 301
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Date: 10/2/09 3:52 PM

I'm not sure now if this noise is normal or not. It's a mild clicking noise coming from the bobbin area.

I just taught myself how to wind a bobbin and thread the 301 per manual's instructions.

I've got a brand new 15x1 universal needle, size 11 inserted correctly.

I remember my friend telling me to listen for two clicks when inserting the bobbin case. Was it two clicks or one? I don't remember now. Well, I didn't hear any clicks when I inserted the bobbin case.

The stitches look very nice, balanced top and bottom.

I'm going to rethread the whole thing and re-insert that bobbin case again, check the needle, and possibly (gulp) remove the throat platefor lint.

Anything else I should be checking?

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Date: 10/2/09 4:18 PM

I was going to suggest to recheck that the needle is inserted properly and all the way up into the machine but I see you posted you are going to recheck that. I used only Singer needles when I owned Singer machines and cannot remember any clicking but I have never owned a nice oldy like your 301..enjoy.

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Date: 10/2/09 5:06 PM

How are you loading the bobbin into the case? The thread should go past the slot, then "back up" to fit inside it. Also, when you load the bobbin case into the machine, make sure the takeup lever (the thing at the top of the machine, with a hole in it that you put thread through; it comes after the tension) is up all the way before you load the bobbin into the machine (this took me a while to figure out!)

You shouldn't need to remove the throat plate if you can lift up the blade (the thing you lift up so you can put in the bobbin. If there's any lint there, it will show you, once you remove the case.

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Date: 10/2/09 5:10 PM

On my newer (computer-controlled) machines, clicking like you describe usually indicates that the timing needs to be adjusted. Not always -- but when I HAVE managed to throw the timing out of adjustment, the first thing I notice is that clicking sound.

You may be able to adjust that yourself on a 301.

Sewing Machine Hook Timing info from SewUSA
You might find the info you need here.

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Date: 10/2/09 5:15 PM

At one time I had four 301 Singers and all of them were a little bit noisier from the bobbin area. I don't remember a clicking sound but the movement of the bobbin area isn't covered like some of the newer machines and just plain noisier. Make sure everything is oiled well, check your manual and oil. You might want to also see if your model needs added grease lube to the motor area. Some of them did and some were enclosed so you couldn't add lube.
Since then I have sold all 4 of my 301s, they are a fun machine and great stitching machine. I am hoping they are still being well loved. My collection has slowly dwindled!!!.but it was time for them to move on.
You could feel a little click when inserting the bobbin on my machines.

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Date: 10/2/09 7:20 PM

Say it isn't so!

I haven't had time to redo my steps. But I will definitely check the timing. Thank you so much for your answers and the link to sewusa's timing instructions.

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Date: 10/2/09 7:53 PM

Another thought: In addition to my fancy schmancy computer machines, I recently bought a vintage Singer Spartan, also known as a model 192: Singer 192 review. This is an absolute bare bones Singer, the "entry level" machine; it doesn't even have a light. Very simple sturdy straight stitch.

It makes a slight clicking sound from the bobbin area. I took this $35 Craigslist treasure home and cleaned and oiled it; it ran and sewed just fine when I bought it, so it wasn't a matter of the machine not working.

It only makes the clicking noise when the bobbin is in - I ran it with no threads and no bobbin to "work in" the oil. I finally came to the conclusion that the bobbin itself, in the drop-in bobbin case, was making the clicking noise as it clicked against the the metal in the bobbin case. It wasn't the needle hitting anything, it's the bobbin being "jerked" around inside the bobbin case that makes a slight clicking noise when I sew. I suspect it sort of "jumps" up and clicks against the plate that slides over the bobbin area.

Just another thought to consider before you start tweaking the 301. If the needle is actually hitting the hook, it's a timing issue. If the bobbin is just "rattling" around, it may not be a timing issue. (Well, as I re-read this paragraph, I realize that this little analysis probably isn't all that helpful. )

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Date: 10/2/09 8:53 PM

CMC, I think you're right as can be. Had a 301 and it did also make a little clicking sound but sewed superbly well with exquisite straight, even stitches top and bottom. I had the sense it was coming from the bobbin case also but it didn't bother me it kind of sounded almost normal. At least I thought it was normal. I believe if the needle were hitting the bobbin case, her machine would not be sewing well. Oh--and what you said made perfect sense to me!

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Date: 10/3/09 11:36 AM

CM_Sews and sewfrequent, your experiences with your vintage SMs are helpful.

I checked the timing. I really don't think it's a timing issue. The needle is not hitting the hook. Completely smooth looking operation.

It's just that short piece of thread stuck in the hook assembly that really bugs me. I still have to disassemble the hook assembly just to remove that short piece of thread. Tweezers won't do.

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Date: 10/3/09 1:44 PM

You may have to remove the bobbin case base to remove that stray thread. But first, soak it in SM oil, then try the tweezer thing again, tugging VERY gently as you rock the handwheel back and forth.

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