Sewing Patterns, Pattern Review, Sewing Classes, Sewing Machines and Sewing Machine Reviews!
Platinum Sponsor Fabric.com
Fabric.com - Free Shipping + Everyday Low Prices

[SIGNUP - FREE Membership & 1 FREE Sewing Lesson ]
[Sewing Classes|Shopping Bag Your Shopping Bag|Login|Help]
Sewing Review and Pattern Reviews Sewing Knowledge Base Sewing Patterns Sewing Classes & Sewing Lessons Sewing Machine & Embroidery Machinery Sewing Message Boards Sewing merchants Help/FAQ About Pattern Review
Enter your e-mail address:




Advanced Search
Tags
New to PR?
Sewing Machines
Compare Sewing Machines
Sewing Machine & Serger Reviews
Embroidery Machines
Sewing Reviews
Sewing Patterns
Review Gallery
Sewing Books
Sewing Supplies
Sewing Websites
Sewing Stores
Sewing Class Reviews
Sewing Expo Reviews
Sewing Tips & Techniques
Sewing Podcasts
NEW!Fabric Glossary
Sewing Review Requests Add a Review Request
Your Account
Edit Profile
My Page
Favorites
Wish List
Pattern Catalog
Notifications
Friends of PR
Join Friends of PR
Find a member
Deal Corner
Photo Album
Calendar
Chat Room
Chat Schedule
Chat Transcripts
Sewing Classifieds
Add a Classified
Sewing Contests
enter contest
contest report
contest gallery
Favorite Links
reviews with comments
merchant gallery
article archive
newsletter archive
Craft Resources
contact info
shipping rates
returns & refunds
testimonials

Platinum Sponsor - Fabric.com
Fabric.com
fabricmart Emma One Sock Brensan Clothing Labels 4 U
Advertising on Boards without permission from PatternReview.com is strictly prohibited. Violators may be banned without notice.
You are not logged in. Please Login

  Tutorials   Active Topics   Active Topics w/Misc.   Pinned Topics   Search Board

  Message Board > NEW to PatternReview? > Best all-metal sewing machine? ( Moderated by EleanorSews)

Go to Page:       
Please LOGIN or Create Profile
Best all-metal sewing machine?
for my needs
alena1976
alena1976
PA USA
Member since 10/26/09
Posts: 7
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/26/09 7:30 PM

Hello,
Can anyone help me with choosing the right sewing machine for me?

1. I am experienced, I have been sewing my whole life (incl. my wedding gown). I am 33 now.
2. I do not care for embroidery though.
3. I choose durable over portable, I want all-metal machine that will last me for decades.
4. I don't need many fancy stitches - just straight, few different zigzags and a button hole (3-step is fine).
5. Elastic stitch would be great but not totally necessary.
6. I have experience only with manual machines and would be nervous to purchase an electronic or computerized machine - there is a high chance that the electronic mechanism would break. Plus I don't see too much advantage to them except programed embroidery patterns.
7. I want my machine to be able to handle thin fabrics as well as several layers of denim with no problem.
8. My last machine had a problem with knitted fabrics that it would not catch the bottom thread - definitely I want to avoid a machine that would be more susceptible to it.
9. Money-wise - I don't have too much to spend ideally $150 - 300 ($500 maximum).

Thank you!
Alena

Next page>>

koo104
star
koo104
Advanced
WA USA
Member since 1/25/04
Posts: 226
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/26/09 8:22 PM

I would look for a Kenmore from the 158- series in the 70's. These are amazing machines. If you are sewing knits, you will want to adjust your pressure foot tension so keep this in mind.

Next page>>

Elona
star
Elona  Friend of PR
Advanced
CA USA
Member since 8/24/02
Posts: 4095
Login to reply to this post

Reply to alena1976
Date: 10/26/09 8:42 PM

Alena, I have sent you a private message.

Next page>>

ryan's mom
starstarstar
ryan's mom  Friend of PR
PA USA
Member since 11/30/04
Posts: 3153
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/26/09 9:25 PM

I just picked up a Kenmore 158 series machine two weeks ago. My MIL's 158 series had a bad gear and couldn't be replaced, but the tech found one for me 3 days later that was traded in for a new machine. He tuned it up, put it in my cabinet, and it purred. Solid as a rock with great stitching. I lent it out to my friend's daughter because I'm teaching her how to sew. She's 12 and is thrilled with it.

My friend offered me her 1950's Singer Slant-O-Matic 401 in her garage (with cabinet). I researched it here on PR and found that it might be a gem so I'm going to take it off her hands.

If you do some searching on machines here at PR, you can learn a lot about certain brands/models of some of the vintage all-metal machines.
-- Edited on 10/26/09 9:27 PM --

------
Big 4 Pattern size 12, RTW bottom: 6, RTW jacket 8, RTW top (no size fits me well!)
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing (Janome Memory Craft 3000), Serger (Pfaff Hobbylock 786), Embroidery (Janome 300E)

Pearls of Wisdom that I'm forever repeating to my kids:
- You wouldn't care what people think of you, when you realize how little they do.
- Look where you're going, not where you've been.

My blogging spot: www.phatchickdesigns.blogspot.com

Next page>>

sissycat
sissycat
Advanced Beginner
FL USA
Member since 11/16/03
Posts: 99
online now
Login to reply to this post

Reply to alena1976
Date: 10/27/09 1:19 AM

I would look for a Singer Slant-O-Matic 400 or 500 series. I think they were among Singers best!

------
MarilynC.

Next page>>

Nancy Rhodes
star
Nancy Rhodes  Friend of PR
Intermediate
OH USA
Member since 4/8/02
Posts: 180
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/27/09 10:49 AM

Dont let anyone hoodwink you with "INDUSTRIAL" strength labels for household machines.

I too would recommend a Singer 400 / 500. I have my Mom's 404 (straight stitch only) which always did the job.

Modern machines use plastic housings and such. I wouldn't let that deter me if you were not interested in vintage machines. The circuit boards are the weak link in newer machines.

Maybe start with a local dealer who completely overhauls trade-ins and give one like that a try. Stay away from big box retailers who sell bottom of the barrel machines with no support and little knowledge of what they are selling. Europro and Brother come to mind in that market. Brother makes great machines but not those!

By the way, your present machine not forming a stitch is probably not due to the knit fabric being sewn... In forming a stitch the interlocking part is below the fabric as well as the throat plate. Rethread your machine Put in a new needle be sure the bobbin is seated properly. Be sure needle is correct for your machine. There are some that don't use standard household needles and needle length, eye placement and scarf are critical areas for proper function.


Best of luck in your search!
-- Edited on 10/27/09 10:55 AM --

------
... cleverly disguised as a responsible adult!

Next page>>

MarthaA24
MarthaA24  Friend of PR
Advanced
CA USA
Member since 4/4/08
Posts: 306
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/27/09 12:16 PM

One of the main machines I sew with is a 401 Singer and it has zigzag and some other stitches. It is a good solid machine. Unless you are experienced at doing your own maintenance any machine can use a good tune up here and there and can make a big difference. A good repairman who knows machines should be able to show you if any adjustments need to be made for certain fabrics. I got the 401 from my mother after she bought a new machine for herself because it was frustrating her to death as it wasn't sewing right. Machines out of adjustment don't sew very well. Ever since I have owned it, it has sewn beautifully.

------
Martha

Next page>>

ryan's mom
starstarstar
ryan's mom  Friend of PR
PA USA
Member since 11/30/04
Posts: 3153
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/27/09 1:06 PM

Also, if the machine's timing is off, that could prevent it from forming a stitch as well. Not according to me, that's according to the tech at my dealer.

------
Big 4 Pattern size 12, RTW bottom: 6, RTW jacket 8, RTW top (no size fits me well!)
Measurements: 34 HB/36 FB (34C bra)/27.5/36 (and working hard to keep it that way.)
Machines: Sewing (Janome Memory Craft 3000), Serger (Pfaff Hobbylock 786), Embroidery (Janome 300E)

Pearls of Wisdom that I'm forever repeating to my kids:
- You wouldn't care what people think of you, when you realize how little they do.
- Look where you're going, not where you've been.

My blogging spot: www.phatchickdesigns.blogspot.com

Next page>>

carolhope

carolhope
Advanced
MA USA
Member since 3/7/06
Posts: 51
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/28/09 3:04 PM

I would also suggest the Singer 400 or 500 series from the 50s and 60s. I have had a 401A since 1959 and it still is running beautifully and gets used a lot. A few years ago, I purchased a second 401A in a cabinet from my local Craigslist, and that too runs great. Neither one has seen a repairman, ever, and I am not the least bit "mechanical" but I have treated these machines with care and they treat me the same way. I purchased the second machine for $125, and it is worth every penny. As stated earlier in this thread, do not purchase one of these machines from anyone who claims that they are "industrial types". They are just workhorses. I can sew knits easily as long as I am using the proper needle.

Next page>>

alena1976
alena1976
PA USA
Member since 10/26/09
Posts: 7
Login to reply to this post

Date: 10/28/09 9:27 PM

Thank you very much to all of you!
Most of you suggested Singers Slant-O-Matic machines: they look beautiful and I am sure they are a dream to work with – my only drawback is that they don't have a free arm option. That is a must right now for me – fixing knees of my toddler/preschooler kids' pants :)

So I keep looking...

The Kenmore 158 – so many models available for a good price! I keep that one as a backup option if I don't find a good deal on some more expensive “gem” like Bernina 830 (suggested by Elona).

What about some Viking?
Necchi?
Janome?

I moved to USA 6 years ago, my recent machine (Singer Marriott 9444) was given to me for free by an old lady. It has a lot of issues, maybe it just needs a complete tune up which I just don't want to spend money on because I know that I would not be “thrilled” with this machine anyway. Last month I visited my mom in Czech Republic and I used her sewing machine (Lucznik, and old as I am) and that was an “aahhh” - I really forgot how wonderfully can sewing feel!
So when I came back – I made a resolution about buying a good machine.
I always rely on internet research – but there are so many machines available and the worst part is that it is very time consuming trying to find just a simple information if they have metal parts or plastic.

Next page>>

Please LOGIN or Create Profile
Go to Page:       

printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com.
If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Objectionable Post button to report it. NEW to PatternReview? >> Best all-metal sewing machine?

New! Merchants on PR
Buntefabrics LLC
European Fabrics
Web site
Fitz Like a Glove Ironing Board Cover
Made In Australia
Deals!
FineFabrics.com
Fashions Best Ingredients
Web site
Sawyer Brook Fabrics
Fine Fabric and Buttons
Deals!
Sew It Up.com

Web site
Advertising on Boards without permission from PatternReview.com is strictly prohibited. Violators may be banned without notice.
You are not logged in. Please Login

  Tutorials   Active Topics   Active Topics w/Misc.   Pinned Topics   Search Board


Copyright © 2009 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.
Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Contact Us
Butterick 4989 Fast and Easy/Fashion Express
photo
Review by Aless on 1/15/08
Read Review

Online Sewing Classes
Pattern Making With Shannon Gifford
Fee: $80
Pattern Making With Shannon Gifford

Online Sewing Classes
Beginner Sewing Lab 102
Fee: $39.99
Beginner Sewing Lab 102

McCall's 5309 CHILDREN'S/GIRLS
photo
Review by salruss on 4/15/09
Read Review

Brensan Piedmont Pieced Shirt
Brensan Piedmont Pieced Shirt

Details
Price: $13.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

SewBaby Snap Happy Booties Pattern
SewBaby Snap Happy Booties Pattern

Details
Price: $8.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Butterick 3039 Pattern ( Size 28W-30W-32W )
Butterick 3039 Pattern ( Size 28W-30W-32W )

Details
Price: $12.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Butterick 5224 Pattern ( Size XSM-SML-MED )
Butterick 5224 Pattern ( Size XSM-SML-MED )

Details
Price: $16.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Subscribe to PR Message Board Feed Subscribe to the PR Message Board Feed Add to My Yahoo! Subscribe at NewsGator Online Subscribe at Bloglines Add to MyMSN