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Date: 1/12/10 5:40 PM

I bought patternmaster boutique 4 software to get custom fitted patterns. I have a number of fitting issues with my body and thought this might be the answer. I entered my exact measurements as instructed by the program, printed the sloper pattern pieces, and began construction. When it was time to sew the front bodice to the back bodice at the shoulders, the length of the shoulder was 1 3/4 inches different between the front and back. I wrote the s/w company support and was given a new set of measurements to enter that I know are not accurate for my body. Anyone else had issues with this s/w or comments on how it has worked for you???
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Date: 1/13/10 5:27 PM

Do up the sloper with the adjusted measurements given to you by Wild Ginger. You'll save yourself tons of grief if you don't try and second guess the program and especially the advice from customer support. They have a real nack for looking at measurements and making them work. Computer generated patterns are different than flat patterns and their adjustments. Sometimes adjustments need to be made based on the code the program uses and the measurement relationships that the program uses to give you the flat pattern. These patterns will look different than what you're used to.

Customer support is fantastic. Even if the sloper doesn't come out to your satisfaction you can send pics to them and they can identify issues.

I've been using PMB programs since version 2.

Diana
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Date: 1/13/10 6:28 PM

I have PMB since version 2. Its always getting better and I am very happy with the fit - sure beats ready to wear or pattern companies.

I did learn a lot about fitting along the way too and made lots of friends in my area who use the software. It really helps to have other users in the area.

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Date: 1/13/10 6:30 PM

I should add that customer support is great. You can also post at the Wild Ginger forums after you register there.

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Date: 1/13/10 7:10 PM

Yep..been tinkering around in PMB4 for about 2 yrs now. I have found it takes at least 2 times to get the first fitting garment right. The first time is with the measures you took, and then the second time with the tweaks that tech support suggests. It took 3 times for my DD & 5 for me, but then I'm a short plus size with a large abdomen so I'm hard to fit anyway, whether it's a by-hand draft ( which you can do in PMB's Cad editor) or by hacking up a commercial pattern.
The idea of course is once you get chart that works, all the styles you do therafter will follow it. The real challenge thereafter is learning to make decisions about style elements & the ease allowances necessary to make them look good on your body. So yeah, I make a muslin for almost each new design I try- why screw up with a good piece of fabric? ;)
I second joining the Wild Ginger forums...lots of advice and you can post WIP pics in your members-only viewed album. :)
Oh yes..and don't forget to read the WG Wiki..especially the part about shoulder balance.

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Subject: Topic moved Date: 1/14/10 10:28 AM

This topic has been moved from Fitting Woes to Pattern Modifications, Design Changes & Pattern Drafting

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Date: 1/18/10 0:23 AM

I'm wondering why the company doesn't modify the program so that it makes a viable product from the actual measurements its given??? Or, if it can't make a viable product from the measurements given, figure that out inside the program and give the user a message as to why it's happening and what to do. So much work for their support person to have to play with the measurements and it sounds like they have to do it for most of their customers. I was a programmer for many, many years. Before the sloper pattern is generated, the program could check the basics like whether the front and back shoulder lengths are equal, etc. Whatever their programmer is doing to find a way to get a viable product, they should be doing inside the code rather than manually. What happens when the company loses their support person for whatever reason??? I'm sorry...I'm just a little disappointed to have purchased s/w only to find it can't produce a viable product and the whole thing becomes a manual operation with support requiring pictures to look at of a sloper created from measurements the programmer had to come up with in order to get the program to generate a viable pattern.

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Date: 1/18/10 0:30 AM

Oh, and one other note...what if your own measurements change somewhat frequently as mine do??? Do you start over with your real measurements and then get a set of numbers from support and do the pictures thing all over again each time you lose or gain a little weight? Yikes!

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Date: 1/18/10 1:09 AM

Once you get your basic measurements right, little changes in weight are easily dealt with as it is usually only bust, waist, and hip that change. Other m'ments only change with big changes in weight.

Work with the people (Karen) in support on this. Just because the tape measure says a number doesn't mean it's right. It's very hard to measure correctly, especially without experience. Even with experience you need to fully understand how the measurements all interact together in the software. Karen understands this.

I've had this software for over ten years and it works as long as you are prepared to listen. You also need to remember you have bought pattern *drafting* software so you are drafting a pattern from scratch.

Adjust the m'ments as Karen advises. When it comes to getting a good fitting sloper she REALLY knows her stuff. Following her advice will save you lots of time and frustration. HTH and good luck.

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Date: 1/18/10 1:17 AM

>>figure that out inside the program and give the user a message as to why it's happening and what to do. So much work for their support person to have to play with the measurements and it sounds like they have to do it for most of their customers.

The software use to have this. It was called the Measurement Coach and drove everyone crazy. It is easier and quicker for Karen to help than for customers to become frustrated trying to satisfy the coach when they don't understand how the m'ments interact with each other.

After you have some experience under your belt you too will understand all this and it will become obvious which m'ments need to be changed, and by how much, to get a good fitting sloper without any help from Karen or a coach.

As I said in my other post, this is *drafting* software. There is far more to pattern drafting than just measurements.

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