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Message Board > Sewing Machines > needles for Babylock Imagine BLE1AT ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 2/8/10 5:11 PM

I'm back at work after being overseas for a year, and am trying to get my sewing classroom back in order. We have 2 Imagine machines, and of course, one has no needles. The instruction book says to use Schmetz HAx1SP, and of the myriad number and type of needles in my classroom, we don't have those.

Does anyone know if I can use universal needles in this serger? Do I have to use serger needles?

Thanks!

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Date: 2/8/10 5:35 PM

You really need to use those needles, you will skip stitches and it will be ugly, oooohhhh. So again, yes you need those needles. Contact your closest dealer, have them pop them off in the mail if you don't want to drive. They could be there the next day or two.

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Date: 2/8/10 7:52 PM

Serger needles are stronger than regular sewing needles as the serger runs at higher speeds. They're often also longer, as they need to be for the loopers to catch.

I personally am huge on only ever using the needles the manufacturer says to use; doing so gives you the best stitch performance and prevents damage to your machine(s) from using incorrect needles.

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Date: 2/8/10 8:39 PM

When I bought my Imagine Wave several years ago, I was told to use Schmetz Universal needles in size 80 or 90. I've only used Universal 90s in my machine in all the time I've had it, and I've never had a problem. I just called my dealer, one of the largest BL dealers in the country, and was told again to use the Universal. I'm assuming I wouldn't have been told to use them in the first place if it wasn't okay, because it would have voided the warranty. I'm curious to hear others weigh in on this too.

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Date: 2/8/10 9:31 PM

I prefer Organ brand needles and use the 15X1SP in my Imagine. Great results each time!

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Date: 2/8/10 9:44 PM

The Imagine uses the Organ or Schmetz HA x 1SP/CR per page 50 of the Imagine manual , so I'm very surprised your dealer would say to use a universal (130-705).

A universal won't blow your machine apart, but machines are manufactured for optimum performance using specific needle systems.

I always worry about the safety issues of using a needle that isn't as strong as serging requires, so I always use whatever the manufacturer recommends. But that's just me. YMMV.

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And Baby (Enlighten serger), Victor (BLCS), Rupert (Pfaff 2023-knits expert) Ash (B350SE-Artwork), Kee (B750QEE-Panzy's BFF), Georgie (B560-Kee's baby sister) and the Feather-Flock!

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Date: 2/8/10 10:42 PM

Thanks, Lynn. This dealer has 4 locations and I called technicians at 2 of them today. Both said the same thing. But I do remember being surprised initially when I got the machine that they told me to use Universals. I just figured they knew what they were talking about because they've been selling BLs for a long long time. I do know that I've never had a needle break and never had a skipped stitch - so perhaps Universals are okay. On the other hand, I don't do much with really heavy fabrics, and I might notice a difference there if I did.

BTW, my dealer also mentioned that the SP refers to sharp, and he doesn't recommend using sharps for knits - another reason he likes the Universals. Nevertheless, I'm off to check online for further info as now I'm curious!

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Date: 2/9/10 6:12 PM

Thanks for the help with the needles. I guess a trip to the fabric store is in the works (boo hoo ). Good to know about the Organ needles. We couldn't find the Schmetz ones at the wholesaler today, so I'll keep that one in mind if I can't find Schmetz ones.

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