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newbie2008

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Date: 2/23/10 12:47 PM

I was trying to make a buttonhole yesterday with the automatic buttonhole foot (foot R - big plastic buttonhole foot) on my Viking 118 and it didn't work. The button was inserted into the foot properly, and the machine would do the front bartack, then a few sitches down the left side fine, then get its knickers into a knot (literally), and make massive threadballs - sewing stitches onto stitches onto stitches. I was just going through two layers of cotton, and even used organza as a stabilizer. Didn't work! Finally in frustration I resorted to using the manual option - regular buttonhole foot and figuring out the distance the old fashioned way - measuring and marking it (heaven forbid!), and it worked right away. The good thing is this forced me to try the "old fashioned" way of making buttonholes, and now I'm not afraid of it. The bad thing is that the automatic buttonhole foot seems to be quirky. Does anybody else have this problem, either with this foot/machine combo, or with or with the auto. foot on other machines? Should I take it to the dealer (I bought the machine 2.5 yrs ago).

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Date: 2/23/10 1:45 PM

If you search the forums you will find a lot of threads on buttonhole making - auto and so on. Yes, I have had issues on the Janome, and on the Viking if I use the sensor foot. Probably with tweaking and stabilizer, and all that sort of thing, these issues can be overcome. BUT, I love the old fashioned, 4 step on a mechanical machine or the regular buttonhole option on my Viking with the regular buttonhole foot because they ALWAYS WORK! I guess I am lazy, but I hate to redo a buttonhole, and I shouldn't have to. Probably nothing wrong with your machine, and if you were to sit there and do it all right out of the manual over and over you would probably get a good buttonhole at least 90%. I decided to just cut my loses and use regular buttonholes.

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Date: 2/23/10 1:51 PM

Does your machine have a lever you pull down from near the needle bar to engage the buttonholer? I was demonstrating a one-step buttonhole to a customer the other day and forgot to pull down the lever--this was on a Janome QC6260. Boy, did I feel dumb! But as soon as that lever was pulled into position, the buttonholer worked like a charm! But until then, the machine was doing EXACTLY what you said your machine is doing.
Good luck with this.

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Date: 2/23/10 2:03 PM

The lever was down in the proper position. I checked, and re-checked with the manual to ensure I was doing it exactly as it said.

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Date: 2/23/10 3:40 PM

I'd take it to the dealer. The auto foot should work fine on cottons that are quilting/blouse weight or lighter.

I've had that same "Doh!" experience with my Janomes and that lever. My Janomes truly don't want to make an auto buttonhole when there are thick seams at one end. My Bernina is slightly more accommodating, but still cranky, with the auto buttonhole and thick stuff next to it, like a pants waistband and the fly front.

Sometimes you just have to use the manual buttonhole. But in your case, I think the dealer needs to watch you do it to make sure nothing is wrong. JMO

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Date: 2/23/10 4:03 PM

I am like Muffett and prefer manual BH's though many lovely BH's can be made with the automatic..it is like Muffett already posted..they are lovely only a percentage of the time. I hate it when completing a garment with auto BH's when..5 BH's are lovely and the 6th just does not come out right.

As for the problem your machine is having..I was wondering if your machine is like my Janome made Kenmore in regards to the automatic buttnholes. This is a bit hard to explain but..my machine has many types of automatic BH's where some when repeated (depending on the type of BH I am sewing)..I can just go on to repeating how many needed but on other types of BH's on that machine .I need to push the button for the type of BH for "each" BH sewn starting from scratch for each consecutive button hole sewn. After completing the first BH..go back to the start..push the type of BH I want then sew the 2nd buttonhole. Go back to the start once again before sewing the 3rd BH. and push the type of BH I want to sew etc.

Each of my machines is different when it comes to BH making. I don't need 9-12 different types of BH's though. I just prefer the perfect linen BH of my Pfaff and I have never purchased the BH sensor that can be plugged into my Viking because I love the BH's it makes every time. It has just enough types, bartack, round end and a straight stitch leather BH or bound. They work well on all fabrics and I even forgot to use a stabilizer on fleece and the BH still came out nice. If I had your machine I would probably just do the 4 step manual type of BH.

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Date: 2/23/10 5:23 PM

The trouble is that I am not sure the 19233 or the 19110 CAN do a manual. They have an auto buttonhole made to bartack - go backwards up the left, straight stitch down the right and then satin stitch up to the top again (somewhere in there is the top bartac). It is almost impossible to trick them into a manual buttonhole using the drop down bar. I tried a LOT. If your machine goes like this: bartac, up a side, bartac, down a side, THEN you can use even an auto setting to do a buttonhole using the drop down bar. Easiest is a machine with a 4 step.Since I have more than one machine, I use either the 4 step, or the Viking's manual setting for a buttonhole.

newbie2008 -

This buttonhole stuff gets to be a pain. There may be a problem your sewing tech can fix at your dealers, or you may have to reset the machine between buttonholes. DO at least call your dealer.
-- Edited on 2/23/10 5:25 PM --

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Date: 1/6/11 4:37 PM

Mufffet...I was going through these boards to once again try to figure out why my 19233 will not work right. I feel better knowing that your prefer the 4-step buttonholes and so I will dig out my other basic Kenmore and finish my shirt (which I am VERY excited about, by the way) with it.

Thanks for keeping this girl calm!

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Date: 1/6/11 4:54 PM

I could almost never get the buttonholes on my 19233 to sew properly, but the ones on my 16231 are very nice. Automatic, but rarely have trouble even with multiple seam allowance layers, like waistbands. What I do find, though, is that placing a button in the auto-foot almost always produces a buttonhole that is too big, so I adjust the foot by hand and then sew samples until I'm happy with the size.
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Date: 1/7/11 2:59 PM

I have a Bernina foot, don't know if it is similar, but when I had this problem I took it in to the dealer... and she cleaned it for me and it worked fine Turns out it just got sticky on the bottom, or lint built up or something... She took a cotton ball with a little SM oil on it, cleaned it up - perfect! Not sure if that's your problem, but you might try it.

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