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Date: 3/8/10 9:08 AM

I have read the Juki threads with great interest and note that there are some other machines that purport to have this box feed such as one of the Janome DC models. I was wondering what other machines have it (Juki, Janome and other models) and if this is something I should take in consideration when shopping for a new machine. I will be looking for a smaller full function machine than I have now (Janome 6600, 11000) to take to classes with me. I am intrigued by the box feed feature but want the real deal 411 on it, not more sm dealer sales smoke up my skirt if you know what I mean.

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Date: 3/8/10 10:38 AM

Box feed means the feed dogs move in a square rather than an ellipse. Therefore, they stay in contact with the fabric longer, which supposedly results in more consistent feed.

Personally, I've never found it makes much of a difference. Maybe it does with decorative stitches, or fabrics with nap, but I couldn't tell you for sure. Theoretically, box feed may make the fabric more difficult to turn while the presser foot is down. Some domestic machines have had this feature for some time - my Bernina 930 has it, and those machines are 25 years old.

If you are mostly doing garment construction, I would stay that box feed is not necessary. It's being used as a selling point, that's all.

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Date: 3/8/10 3:49 PM

There are some older machines that offer box feed plus some Singer models like the Curvy 8763 and Singer 7442. You might find many machines that offer box feed.

I do think that the Janome machines with the SFS (superior feed system) plus the box feed, which Janome calls SFS Plus that is offered on the 3160QDC seems like it would be great. The machine though full size only weighs 12 lbs..it is amazing to me. Janome says this machine has TOL features at only 12 lbs.
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Date: 3/9/10 4:11 AM

Quote: Betakin
There are some older machines that offer box feed plus some Singer models like the Curvy 8763 and Singer 7I do think that the Janome machines with the SFS (superior feed system) plus the box feed, which Janome calls SFS Plus that is offered on the 3160QDC seems like it would be great. The machine though full size only weighs 12 lbs..it is amazing to me. Janome says this machine 442. You might find many machines that offer box feed.



has TOL features at only 12 lbs.
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Yeah, I saw that 12 lbs too! Full sized machine but only 12 lbs? It looks neat from the pics on the website. I like the idea of the presser fot pressure control dial and the thread cutter too. I hope we get one in the store soon so I can play with it!
But 12 lbs...wow-plus it doesn't have the heart dec stitch either!

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Date: 3/9/10 5:12 AM

Oh do post about the machine if you get one in the store to try out. I know, that cutter sure is nice especially for a light weight machine.

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Date: 3/9/10 7:40 AM

Soolip explained it perfectly, and I, having a box feed machine, would like to caution you.

You have to hold the threads to the side every time you start a seam. This is important especially for knits and sheers because they will become "eaten" by the machine; this was my early learning curve with my Janome. Don't ask me how this works, but it does. You could also make a "leader" which is a little square piece of fabric that sits under your presser foot and "leads" the new fabric into the machine. My old Singers do not have this feature, and I can put anything under the presser foot without a problem. I don't know why sewing machine manufacturers changed this and I wish they'd go back, but they won't.

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Date: 3/9/10 9:00 AM

I've never understood the 'leader' concept. Okay, I do, but I don't understand why people would put up with it. Seems like extra work and a hassle. None of my machines ever required that.

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Date: 3/9/10 10:57 AM

I can't seem to find a single professional article discussing the "box feed", exactly what it is and how it works, pros & cons, etc. Not a single diagram either, or mention of having to hold the threads, hype or anything. Nothing at all. On the contrary, articles I've found look more like this with no mention of box feed:

Sewing Machine Feed Systems

Will the elusive box feed please make itself known.

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Date: 3/9/10 11:15 AM

Miss Fairchild, I found that the only time that I had to hold the threads before sewing was on a machine with an oscillating hook.
May I ask which model Janome you have where you have to hold the threads or use a leader?

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Date: 3/9/10 12:07 PM

My Juki F600 has the box feed and doesn't require the "leader" but I do it anyway. I don't consider it a hassle at all. To me, it's more like a practice anchor. I can see before actually sewing the seam the stitch length and needle position, in case I forgot to adjust either one of those, or if there's ever a bobbin jam or something else undesirable. This has saved me from ripping out many a seam, and the fact that it keeps the threads from going astray is an added bonus.

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