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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > brother coverstitch binder problems ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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help please, I just can't make this work!
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Date: 7/15/10 9:18 AM

I'm trying to bind my first garment with the brother CV machine. I have the brother double fold binder B type with THE foot. And I bought a generic A type binder since that is what I prefer.

so I put the foot on. This foot has a nice ridge underneath that I can see the beauty of pushing the binding edge up against and keeping it straight. If I use the middle and right needles I think I can make that work. Is this right?

Then I thought I would use a nice quality chez ami rib knit for binding. I can pull it thru the binder by hand, no problem. It's a bit more of a challenge once I turn the corner. But the foot doesn't seem to be able to pull it thru when the sewing machine is running. Counter-intuitively, I believe the presser foot has too much pressure and is squashing it? KWIM? Do I need to release it even more? the knob is poking up a LOT, will it just fall off?

Is this a differential feed issue? I'm completely stumped on that topic.

I did try starching the strip and that didn't help. I read, I think on either Sew4Fun or Debbie Cook's blog, that i could use fusi-knit?

Maybe rib knit just isn't a good choice?

I haven't been able to get the binder to work. This is my second concerted effort.

Any and all ideas and assistance would be greatly appreciated. I'm to the point of sacrificing a chicken to the sewing gods

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Date: 7/15/10 9:33 AM

Chris - there are a lot of threads on this topic. Here is just one: brother binder thread.

If you put 'brother binder' in the search section to the right, search under 'boards' and make sure you're searching in the message, not the heading when you're asked to, you'll pull up all the others.

HTH

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Date: 7/15/10 9:38 AM

thanks.. I have been trolling and reading others posts. I've tried a bunch of suggestions given there.

I DO *think* I have the binder set up properly. I'm not sure if my fabric choice is bad or if it is user technique.

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Date: 7/19/10 11:17 AM

I ended up using the brother OEM B-type binding setup. It worked like a charm. I'm not sure why I can't get the generic A-type to work.

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Date: 7/20/10 2:53 PM

You might need more practice. Rib knit is not an easy fabric to work with. Try some woven strips first, use muslin or light-weight cotton and the like. See how those perform.

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Date: 6/3/12 0:10 AM

I'm having so much trouble with the brother cv attachments too. Especially the binder foot. I cannot believe brother doesn't have videos for these attachments on their website. I keep trying these binders on some left over scrap cotton materials. It looks terrible! My right needle keeps running off the binding and the binding ends up with pleats on bottom. I'm so frustrated with the attachments. I tried the hemmer too and was frustrated with it too. (I actually tried the "mock coverstitch" and the hem looked better than when I used the hemmer attachment. ) I am actually sorry I bought the attachments for the brother coverstitch machine because it is so hard to figure out how to use them. brother, should have made a cd for this attachment pkg showing people how to use them, even if you had to pay extra for it. I did call Brother Corp and wrote up a complaint comment in regards to them not having any help at all for these attachments.

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Date: 6/3/12 1:09 AM

Mia22, exactly which binder "foot" do you have. Brother has three, although they are all attachments, not feet.

1. double fold binder (for knits) with binding foot?
2. bias tape binding set (for purchased bias binding)?
3. bias tape folder (for wovens)?

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Also what type of fabric are you using? Cotton what? Knit or woven, and what type of knit or woven? What settings is the machine currently set to? What needle are you using? Do you have photos of how the attachment is currently attached to your machine, plus photos of your fabric scraps showing the issue?

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Date: 6/3/12 9:45 AM

Hi Belinda, First thank you so much for your brother coverstitch tutorial materials on the website. If it wasn't for that material I would not know where to even begin with this brother cv machine and I truly think your directions for a mock hem coverstitch hem looks nicer on hemmed samples than when I try to hem with the brother hemmer. In response to your questions: I tried the double fold binder for hours yesterday, with woven cotton scrap material that I had left over from making table napkins.
(the goofy Brother directions never said that binder was for knits, I thought it would work for anything). I have a 90/14 needle in there. and maxilock threads (thread breaks with other brands) I set it up for a left/right needles and looper all set at tension 4. I lined up black arrow on machine cover with "A" marking on attachment just left of the indentation. I'll dig in the garbage to take pictures of terrible looking results and post them but sample already had exceeds material cut off of left side but I'll send anyways. (can't figure out how to upload the pictures)?????? In meantime can you recommend a generic binder for the single fold 3/8 that you like so much for camisoles? Thank you so much for all your help

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Date: 6/3/12 7:39 PM

Mia, the double fold binder is for knits. It really doesn't work for woven fabrics. For wovens you need one of the other binders. The double fold binder actually stretches the fabric so this is probably what is causing the pleats. Start again with a stable knit fabric and see how you go. Something like a poly/cotton interlock is a good place to start.

The Brother CS is timed to use overlocking thread in the looper and ordinary sewing thread in the needles, with thread nets. The thread nets are important on CS machines and make a big difference so make sure you use them.

As for other generic binders, I'd recommend learning how to use the Brother binder first. It's by far the easiest of the binders to use. When I bought mine I put it on my machine, read the instructions (which I found to be very good) and sewed with perfect results first time. So if you are having issues with the Brother binder, you'll be tearing your hair out with the generics. They are a lot more fiddly. HTH and good luck.

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Date: 6/3/12 10:02 PM

Thank you so much for the tips

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