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Which one to buy for vintage machine?
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Date: 8/10/10 1:20 PM

I have bought a New Home/Janome 532 sewing machine from the mid 1960's (1964 or 1966, I am not sure). This is a high shank machine. Bobbin case is the the left of the needle and is vertical.

Which Greist buttonholer should I buy? There are so many on eBay that I am not sure which one to get.

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Date: 8/12/10 4:17 PM

You would need a Greist #7. Ask the seller to look at the end of the box to find the model #.

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Date: 8/12/10 4:53 PM

Thank you! There are so many I did not know which one to get.

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Date: 8/12/10 5:19 PM

How do you discover what type of machine each Greist model's work on?

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Date: 8/12/10 5:48 PM

The search function on this board is very handy...

http://sewing.patternreview.com/cgi-bin/sewingclasses/board.pl?t=46553

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Date: 8/12/10 7:37 PM

Thanks!

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Date: 8/13/10 10:17 AM

If you find a Greist buttonholer in its box, turn the box upside down and it lists the different models of buttonholers and a short definition of which type of machine the buttonholer fits on. This is on the bottom of my #10 buttonholer.

#5 Singer only (for slant needle)
#6 Low Bar (short shank) Left Needle Position Zig Zag and Automatic Machines
#7 High Bar (high shank) Left Needle Position Zig Zag and Automatic Machines
#8 All Pfaff Sewing Machines except models 139, 239, 1221 and 1222
#9 All Necchi Straight Stitch and all Low Center Needle Position (low shank) Zig Zag and Automatic Machines
#10 All Necchi, Pfaff (Models 139 and 239) and High Bar Center Needle Position (high shank) Zig Zag and Automatic Machines.

As far as the Singer Buttonholers are concerned the buttonholers in the green bullet cases work for low shank machines (and I think center needle position. This one works great on my little Kenmore Mini Ultra.), and the pink bullet cases are for Singer slant needle machines only. There are many vintage Singer and Greist buttonholers that are for rotary hook machines and these will NOT work on an oscillating hook machine (ask me how I know). Vintage Elnas are rotary machines, and I think that some of the older Singers are, too, but I don't know which models are rotary. In order to tell which you have (most wil be oscillating hook) turn the machine up so you can see the bobbin (hook) area, turn the handwheel toward yourself. If the hook makes a complete rotation around then your machine has a rotary hook. If the bobbin swings back and forth then you have an oscillating hook machine.
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My vintage Necchi Julia sews on the far left, but to use the Greist #10 buttonholer I move the needle to the center postion. I suppose my Julia could use a #7 buttonholer and then I wouldn't have to move the needle to the center. Either way it's not a big deal. I think I saw somewhere on these boards that a vintage Necchi owner uses a #7 on her machine and has had good results. That being said, if your machine has needle positions you can move your left sewing position to the center, then all you need to be concerned about is being careful that your buttonholer is of the proper shank length. Hope this makes sense!
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Date: 8/13/10 3:23 PM

Well I have a Greist 6-Z which will not work for either of my vintage machines. I need a 1Z. Well, I guess I should keep looking.
Anyone need the 6-Z? It's for a low shank left needle machine.

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Date: 8/14/10 12:18 PM

I am guessing the Greist buttonholer models #1-#4 are for rotary machines and/or straight-stitch only machines that are rotary (I'm only guessing). I don't know when Singer went with the oscillating hook. My Greist buttonholer box states (and shows pictures of the presser foot bar needed):

#1 Side Screw Clamping -- Singer, White, Brother, Morse, Atlas, Kenmore, Domestic, Free Westinghouse and most all imported straight stitch sewing machines.

#2 Top Clamping -- White, Kenmore, Domestic, Majestic, Franklin, Worlds, Dressmaster, and all Rotary machines made by White & Domestic Sewing Machine Corp.

#3 Top Clamping -- Kenmore (49,71,76), Free Rotary, Free-Westinghouse, New Home (Rotary), Stratford, Most all machines made by Free & New Home Sewing Machine Company.

#4 Top Clamping -- Eldredge, National, Montgomery Ward, All machines made by National Sewing Machine Company.

So I am guessing that you have a Singer with a rotary hook?

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Date: 8/14/10 2:15 PM

Quote: catsmeow
I am guessing the Greist buttonholer models #1-#4 are for rotary machines and/or straight-stitch only machines that are rotary (I'm only guessing). I don't know when Singer went with the oscillating hook....

Rotary hook, oscillating hook, vibrating shuttle - IT DOESN'T MATTER as far as buttonholers are concerned.

The main determining factor is the way attachments fit onto the presser bar.

#1 - Side screw clamping - this is the most common fit on sewing machines, even today. Often called low shank. I'm sure there are more of this style of buttonholers than all others combined.

#2-#4 - Various top clamping - Back when there were other American manufacturers besides Singer, all the others used a different attaching system. These feet had a sort of horizontal two pronged fork that fitted onto the presser bar and was held in place with a horizontal knurled nut. Companies like White, National, New Home, Standard, (and some Canadian ones like Raymond and New Williams) all used a version of this type, although they were all just a little bit different enough that they weren't interchangeable between brands.

Greist, as the market leader in Buttonholer manufacturer, endeavoured to make an attachment to fit practically any model still in use in the straight stitch era. I'm not sure if they ever made any models specifically for zz machines - the Singer Professional line were made by someone else.

Jennifer in Calgary
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