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Message Board > Machine Embroidery > Thread keeps shredding ( Moderated by Pyrose)

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Thread keeps shredding
Breakage on certain projects
labeelady

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Date: 8/28/10 9:11 AM

I've been unsuccesful in doing free-standing lace recently because of multiple occurrences of thread breakage. The thread I'm using is a 40 wt. polyester. I tried using a rayon thread (Sulky) but the breakage occurred with that one also.

Yesterday I was able to remove the strike plate and check in the bobbin area for bits of thread, found nothing but fuzz which I cleaned out. I think it's being shredded near the tension disks.
Other than taking my machine into the shop for cleaning is there anything else I'm overlooking?

Oh, and I've also tried using a double thickness of stabilizer.

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Pat H.
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Date: 8/28/10 10:12 AM

Which brand of thread are you using? It might be old thread. I took a workshop class at a sewing expo a few years ago, and the Viking educator who taught it told us that even polyester thread has a shelf life. I do not know if that is true, but cotton definitely has a shelf life for machine embroidery.

If your design is really, really dense, that could be a problem also.

You might try a topstitching needle. The eye is much larger and less likely to shred the thread. This is the type needle recommended for metallics for that reason.

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Date: 8/28/10 12:30 PM

When this happened to me, I tried so many things; cleaning and re-cleaning the bobbin area and case, rethreading, changing needles, etc. It turned out that there was some thread caught inside the take-up lever that I could not see.

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Date: 8/28/10 2:45 PM

I am having the same trouble with my 350E but my sisters and friend is using the same thread as mine in theirs with no problem. I am going to try to work it out. My thread is new so that shouldn't be the problem. It sews good in my D1. Hope you have solved your problem by now. I will look for loose threads in my machine.

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sewing grammy

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Date: 8/28/10 6:42 PM

Yes, I have a feeling that it's something around the take-up lever, but I can't see anything from my viewpoint. I'd need a bright light to see in there. I'm going to borrow my hubby's flashlight and see if I can see anything stuck in it.

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Pat H.
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Brother PE-770
Janome Jem Platinum 760
Singer 221 (1948)
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Date: 8/28/10 6:53 PM

May sound dumb but have you tried changing the position of the reel of thread? Most machines give you several different options for placing the reel, try it in different positions and see if that helps. I know this happens with my D1, no rhyme or reason just some threads like being horizontal and some vertical!

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Lynny - Geelong, Australia

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Date: 8/28/10 8:21 PM

I had that problem with my pfaff I asked a lady who did some commercial embroidery she said if the needle is new or good, then its most likely something caught in the tension disk, she was right.

I know there are heaps of strictures against the canned cleaners (you know air in can, silicone in can) but i sprayed a bit of that on a long fine bristle paint brush and got in where i could. did the trick I had what I thought was a miniscule bit of thread caught from all the shredding.

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Date: 8/28/10 8:23 PM

Yes, I have tried putting it on a single thread stand, and it does better in regard to "looping" but it still shreds.

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Pat H.
Carencro LA
Kenmore Zigzag, circa 1970's
Brother PE-770
Janome Jem Platinum 760
Singer 221 (1948)
Singer 413
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Janome Horizon 8900 QCP

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Subject: Thread keeps shredding - culprit found! Date: 8/28/10 9:49 PM

With the help of my hubby's flashlight, I found the culprit! A loop of thread was spotted lurking in the hole of the take-up lever! I quickly enlisted the aid of a straight pin and my trusty tweezers and captured that varmint!

So if you're having the same problem I did and don't see anything, a very bright flashlight might help identify the culprit.

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Pat H.
Carencro LA
Kenmore Zigzag, circa 1970's
Brother PE-770
Janome Jem Platinum 760
Singer 221 (1948)
Singer 413
Singer SEQS-6000 (Quartet)
Janome Horizon 8900 QCP

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Date: 8/28/10 10:14 PM

Okay.. but still.. its time to service that machine .. in the future of course.

Oh, Labee, I am so glad you were able to figure this out.. so that if it happens again you will keep looking.. I think sometimes its just easier to panic and take the machine in.. rather than spend some time to learn and maintain our machines. This is a prime case of that.

And I am so glad you started the thread.. as we learn a lot about our machines from these threads.

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