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mykidsmom1
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Date: 9/3/10 10:08 PM

Exactly a year ago I bought a huskylock 936 5 thread. I used the 4 thread feature on it and loved it. I decided to test out the 5th thread option as that's the reason I bought it. I had no trouble getting it mechanically switched over. However, I never could get a good stitch on it and when I finally gave up (after weeks of trying) and switched back to the 4 thread function, I have not been able to get my tensions reset correctly. I have been over this thing a hundred times. I'm not a beginner sewer and have been using a 4 thread serger for ten years. This thing has been sitting now for 6 months and I NEED to get it working again. There are no dealers here that are even willing to reset the tension for me. I've watched the you tube videos. Threading it isn't the problem. I've changed to new needles, used the thread net covers, etc. etc. etc. Has anyone else had this trouble and how did you solve it? I'm about ready to dump this very nice, expensive machine in the trash. I want a Janome 634. All mechanical and no 5 thread. :-( Can you tell I'm frustrated?

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patti

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Date: 9/3/10 10:11 PM

Your tensions should set automatically. Do you have your manual? If not you can get one at the viking website. Also go to yahoo groups and join the 936 Serger group. There is tons of information there and lots of help. Good Luck and don't give up.

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Date: 9/3/10 10:13 PM

Hi,

I do have my manual, but it's been of no help. I've left my tensions where the machine sets it, and I've changed them manually. Nothing is working. :-( I did join the yahoo groups last year and couldn't get much help. I'll try again. thanks.

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Date: 9/3/10 10:35 PM

I have found that when I can't get a good stitch, it is usually something really simple. First of all, do you have the correct fabric selected? Do you have the needle in the correct opening? Did you thread in the correct order--upper loopr, lower looper, left needle, right needle? Is the thread guide set to N rather than B? Are you absolutely sure you put the thread through each and every thread guide? Did you rethread the lower loopers to make sure the thread is really seated in the tension disks?

I have been very sure that everything was correct and rethreaded over and over again and then, all of a sudden, everything worked correctly and my stitch was perfect. Sometimes it is lint in the machine, sometimes one looper thread is crossed over the other incorrectly at the top, or the thread came out of a guide, or attached itself to a guide that it wasn't supposed to go through.
Also, the fabric may sometimes be the problem or you may need a new needle. Is your presser foot pressure set at N? Sometimes I find that my dials are not set according to the numbers indicated in the window when I hit the "A" and I have to change them manually to correspond to the recommended settings.

I know you have been sewing for years and all of this seems pretty fundamental -- but I have been sewing for 50 years and have had a serger for over 15 years or so, and I still have problems now and then. It is usually something where you hit your forehead and say "I can't believe I didn't see that."

All in all, I love my 936 and use a 3 or 4 thread stitch often -- still have to master the coverstitch because I have been lazy and didn't want to reset so resorted to twin needles.

I hope you find the answer because the 936 is a terrific serger.

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2013 Goal: 400 yds (again)
Total sewn in 2013 -- 225.848 yds.
Total yards in inventory 1/1/14 -- 1752.5
Goal for 2014 -- 400 yards (for the third time)

Machines: Designer Diamond, #1+, H Class 100Q, and Viking 400 Serger: 936

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Date: 9/4/10 0:25 AM

Thank you for that encouragement! I was about to toss this thing in the trash. Since it's been sitting for so long I'm going to go back and take a fresh look at everything again. I did find some good pictures on the yahoo group forum where the detail is a bit bigger and clearer so I'll see if I'm missing something threading. I'll try again before I dump it in the river. It's such a nice machine. I'm just very intimidated by it right now!

patti

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Date: 9/4/10 4:21 AM

Someone else I read somewhere, probably a review here on PR, called her 936 The Intimidator (lol!). I have one and it can be beastly at times, particularly for skipping stitches during coverstitching. I recently bought a Bernina 800DL and love it but managed to throw it out sewing over some thick polarfleece- which it should have been able to sew. So whilst it is back in the shop for attention, I have been dealing with The Beast , as I refer to mine as, when I am not getting on with it well. Somehow the fact that my dealership said mine has zero trade in value as far as they are concerned, has made me more confident with it, as if somehow I can't break what was very expensive overlocker as it has no trade in value. This is probably a good thing.

I have found the thread is prone to jumping right out of the top tension disks even after hearing the thread click into place, and sometimes it takes me a while to figure of why it is stitching so badly is the thread is out of the tension disk- often I am so busy looking down inside and rethreading that I forget to look up and check that point first. So dont' forget to look there!
If if was sewing fine before but isn't now, and you try all of the suggestions from katlew03, maybe it needs a service? There might be muck in places you cannot see that is affecting the way the machine is stitching.
Good luck with it. Even if you do get a second overlocker you like more, if you can fix this one it might be good to have as a back-up as I have found mine useful for recently. I had planned to have mine tasked to coverstitch and am trying some new needles recommended to my by my dealership, that should eliminate the skipping stitches- they have a slot down the front and back of the needle. I don't know many people who have had good cover stitching experiences with it though but hope this does the trick.

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Date: 9/4/10 12:16 PM

QQ, you may already do this when threading but if you are having problems with threads jumping out of the tensions I suggest to set the tension at 0 when passing the thread through the disk..then set the tension at the desired number to lock in the thread.

That is interesting that you were given new needles with the slot down the front and back of the needle. These needles sound like the industrial type that my old Babylock took that were round shank needles and not flat on one side and were rather hard to insert.
Can the 936 use the ELx705 needles that are recommended for cover stitch and to prevent skipped stitches? I use them for my Coverlock and my basic serger.
-- Edited on 9/4/10 12:18 PM --

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Date: 9/4/10 6:44 PM

I have the 936 and love it although I am one of those lazy ones that doesn't worry about the coverstitch. Mostly I am 3 and 4 thread and rolled edge. One real problem is to be careful that the thread catches in the tension discs. You should hear a click.

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Date: 9/4/10 6:58 PM

I don't have your machine, but I just wanted to tell you about a couple of things that caused me some "oh no" moments with my sergers. 1. Make sure the needles are in the correct holes for the stitch, and 2. Place the fabric under the foot to start sewing. Just my 2 cent worth...

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Date: 9/4/10 7:56 PM

Betakin,
Yes the needles I was given by my dealership are the ELx705 type.
Haven't had a chance to try them yet as I had to set the machine back to standard 4 thread overlocking for a project recently. As it takes time to re-configure the machine again I won't be doing it until I am about ready to do a coverstitch or when I get back my other machine after repairs are done...have a few garments I want to sew at the moment so may very well just use a twin needle for the hems as it is a beast of a thing and time consuming to switch back to coverstitch, then back to regular overlocking...But will let you know when I do get to trying those needles, how it goes.

As to the other suggestion from a helpful person here,
Yes putting the tension to zero to thread, pushing the thread down till it clicks into place and then setting the tension to where ever it is needed seems to help and that is what I have always done, but I will say it still jumps out now and then. Maybe the nature of the beast.

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