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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Pfaff 130 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Pfaff 130
Anyone have a diagram for this machine.
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Date: 9/8/10 6:16 PM

I just recently bought a pfaff 130 sewing machine. It needs a little help. It runs but it doen't sew. I plan on taking it apart and cleaning it up. (A good winter project.) Does anyone know where i can get a diagram(picture of the inside on how to take apart and put together. I know some of you have taken apart machines and put them together again.
Do any of you know where i can find such a book or information?

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Date: 9/8/10 6:35 PM

Have you checked oldpfaffpforum yahoo group? They have service manual.

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Date: 9/8/10 6:45 PM

Frankly, not enough emoticons for my taste.
Anyway, I have scanned my manual for my 130-6.
If I could figure out how to send it I would - unless you don't need the maual. Bert

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Date: 9/8/10 8:24 PM

I have the manual for the machine that i ordered and printed off. It shows nothing about the separate parts.

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Date: 9/8/10 8:32 PM

alrighty then. maybe next time.

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Date: 9/8/10 11:27 PM

oldpfaffpforum has the service manual, but there is no diagram in there. Just how to adjust everything like tensions and zig zag regulator, timing etc.
Mine is sewing, but I'm having major issues with resetting the ZZ regulator since getting the zz shaft unstuck finally. The service manual tells how to adjust it back but it's difficult and then when I think I have it my zz knob won't tighten back up properly to hold the adjustment. Sigh. And now I've managed to overdo things and it won't move at all. DH will have to unlock it again.
They will tell you at that forum that these machine have very tight tolerances, and I believe them!

Mine is sitting in the dining room with me wanting to put it to the road.
-- Edited on 9/8/10 11:28 PM --

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Date: 10/6/10 9:19 AM

I hope its ok to bring this thread back to the top rather than starting a new thread.

I have a Pfaff 130 but I have no motor, its a treadle. I want to love it but its just not happening.

The stitch is ok, not great. Also I can't get the tension correct in wide zig zag. I don't know whether this is due to my rather wonky treadling.

So i'm asking, is the 130 really so fab? Is it any stronger than a Singer 201? Now that machine I find easy, just plug in and go.

I have been holding onto it in the hope of getting a motor (I hear its a 1.2amp so nice and powerful) But if its no better than the Singers of its time I may sell it on and make some space in my sewing room.

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Date: 10/6/10 10:04 AM

I don't think you could really say one is better than the other. They are different machines. The Pfaff has zig zag and the 201 is straight stitch only. The Pfaff with a motor is probably more powerful than than a 201, but do you really need more power? Would it make a real difference in your sewing?

It sounds your like 130 is in need of some adjusting, but as mentioned briefly by Mary in this thread, and discussed more extensively by her in another one (that I started when I got my 130) it is a very precisely engineered machine. So I'm not sure how easy it would be to make the proper adjustments yourself if it's not basic stuff. (When I read the original post here asking about how to take a 130 apart it made me nervous, as I think this is one machine you should *not* do that to.)

If the Pfaff 130 isn't making you happy, then you don't need to keep it just because other people think it's a great machine.

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Date: 10/6/10 11:06 AM

Under normal sewing circumstances, no there probably isn't a real difference. However, the 130 is was advertised as a semi-industrial machine because you can mount the 130 in an industrial table and put an industrial strength motor on it. That will certainly be more powerful than a 201.
For normal home sewing, the electric 201's potted motor is gear driven, usually considered a plus for power, but I have my own question out about that right now - belt or potted, as I have a choice of both in getting a 201.
201s made in Britain are belt driven. The electric 130 is belt driven, but came with a 1.3 amp motor, the 201s is lower amp. The 130 takes one size larger needle (23) than the 201 but you have to adjust timing.
Soolip has said the 130 needs a more powerful motor because it's a zig zag machine, the 201 doesn't need the extra power to produce the same results. I have never verified this with a tech, but it sounds like it makes sense.

All this said, I KNOW my 130 with it's .9 amp motor is just one notch above my Viking 6570 with it's 1 amp motor. It flies over 9 layers of denim without complaint, using an 18 denim needle, and only a .9 amp motor. I have not put in a larger needle, but I think with a 21 needle it will do even more if it can be fit under the foot - without hurting it. Both machines bobbins have NO problem accomodating a very thick thread.

I'm getting a 201 real soon, and will definitely compare them side by side, if you can wait a few days. We did get my 130 sewing again with the help of someone on that Pfaff yahoo group. Right now my 130 is with a tech who is going to put his 1.3 amp motor on it, and check it out in general for me. Then I'll be able to see what the differences are, and which machine to keep.

Here is one warning: I you have the need to readjust the needle movement to 0 you have to be very, very careful. I won't go into detail here, just let me know first and I can walk you through it!

I was told by this guy that each piece of these machines were handcrafted at the time, the skill passed down through generations. It's not a machine that you should take apart unless you are a truly skilled technician. Taking the tensions down though, is probably okay.
Anyway, I hope that helps. I absolutely will be comparing both machines.

ETA: Sorry, I"m just realizing you are tredling! I know nothing about that!! So look at my post from the perspective of electrifying your130.
-- Edited on 10/6/10 11:11 AM --

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Date: 10/6/10 3:56 PM

Grrr I wrote a long reply and its gone.
Everything I read suggests that the 130 is a fab machine, however I don't know anyone who treadles it. I think the motor has a lot to do with its power.
My friend thinks that the less than perfect stitching is because i'm a rubbish treadler, I'm forever starting and stopping (sometimes even managing to go backwards when I really want to go forwards!) She says that that as i'm not consistent then that shows in my stitches.
I was just wondering why you thought it not possible to put an industrial motor on the Singer but then I realised, here in the UK we have the belt driven motors so it would be possible. I've never seen a potted motor though so can't help at all with your other question on the forum.
I like to make bags from recycled leather so I do need a strong machine and thats why I was drawn to the 130 in the first place. My Bernina just laughed at me when I offered it four layers of leather!
I may have a go at taking the motor off my Singer and trying it on the 130 to see what kind of stitch performance I get. My 130 was owned by a seamstress and its seen many years of heavy use, there's no gilding left on it at all and it looks very worn. However I also know that it was looked after and it is a wonderfully silent machine that moves effortlessly.
I need to spend more time on it but at the moment it sits in its cabinet never seeing daylight.
I think if I got a good motor on it then it would become a favourite.

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