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potted or belted?
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Date: 10/5/10 9:21 PM

WARNING WILL ROBINSON, WARNING!! (flailing arms wildly) This is a vintage machine question.

Assuming all else to be equal, is there any real sewing difference between a machine with a potted motor or one with a belted motor? Any difference in power?
I'm talking bout a 201 here. I'd go for the potted but that one is not pretty. The pretty one has a belted motor, which this guy is willing to change out for me, to a black .9 amp after he cleans it. It's an old motor I have, and I would want that one on it instead of the beige one on there now.
I'm curious as my Pfaff 130 has a belted motor, but it can sew through anything. With the Singers though, I've heard the potted motor is best. This machine may have been rigged with this belted motor - I'm not sure if any of the 201's actually came with belt driven motors either.


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Date: 10/5/10 9:27 PM

Someone here (TGM?) has a belted 201. I really can't speak to the differences - I've heard both sides: that the potted is better, and others have said there's no difference at all in power or performance. I've not done a side by side sew-off (& even if I had, who knows what other factors might have come into play?)

So.....I'm a big help, huh?

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Date: 10/5/10 9:32 PM

I have a potted singer 15-91 sewing machine. The difference would be that you can replace the other motors on a belted singer . where potted are hard to find. If you can they cost up towards 50 dollars. both kind of motors are good and strong.

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Date: 10/5/10 10:11 PM

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I'm not sure if any of the 201's actually came with belt driven motors either.

My understanding is that the US made 201's had the potted motor, the UK made had the belted. In many years of looking, I've only seen one potted motor on a 201 here in Australia. We tend to have more of the tan version than the black, also.

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Date: 10/6/10 0:16 AM

Mary, (and anyone else)
Possibly McKenna Linn's site "yourGrandmothersSM" will shed some light. She lists 4 sub-models of 201's and their various MO's. She has a lot of good info and excellent pic's of vintage machines and cabinets, etc. HTH's

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Date: 10/6/10 0:34 AM

There is a tan 201?

Some like potted because of no belts...
Some like belts so they can turn them into treadles.
That is all I know, but perhaps it is helpful.

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Date: 10/6/10 1:33 AM

Excuse the poor quality - taken in bad light with my phone


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Date: 10/6/10 1:42 AM

Oh! I like it!
It sorta looks like a green 185 only brown!
I like the contrasts.
Thank you for sharing that!

Adding with an edit--I like your blue tweed case too. I have been looking for some nice tweeds, I want to recover some of my cases.
I am not quite sure how, just lots of glue or what.

I heard to use tolex, that is all I know so far. Did you re-do yours?

-- Edited on 10/6/10 1:45 AM --

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Date: 10/6/10 3:34 AM

I have a 201-2 and a 201k belted...
The biggest difference I've found is the noise level.
The potted motor versions are quieter and have that lovely whirring noise.

As far as performance goes.... I've never noticed any real diference.

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Date: 10/6/10 3:45 AM

I bought the machine and case as is. The case (and machine) is in beautiful condition and is what persuaded me to buy the machine. I didn't have a 201 so the 90 minute drive to spend $10 wasn't a hardship. The case reminds me of the picnic basket we had in the '60's - memories of my parents, trips to the English countryside in the sidecar of my dad's motorbike..... Aah, memory lane.

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