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Date: 10/16/10 8:33 PM

I am looking to purchase a pfaff coverlock 4.0. However I can find very little information concerning people's feelings about this machine. Does anyone own this machine and can you please give me advice on this machine?

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Date: 10/21/10 1:31 PM

i own a pfaff coverlock 4850. i really do love it. pros are its a sturdy machine and handles all sorts of thickness. it also has a coverstitch (narrow only). it's a all in one machine which saves on space. it's also not computerized which could mean less repairs. the only disadvantages that i found is switching from a four thread to a coverlock stitch 2 or three times in one project for decorative topstitching and then to finish the hem. and price. for the same price i could have bought a separate coverlock machine (which i have ended up doing anyways.) mind you i don't know what they retail for now. oh and needles are specific elx705 (online - hard to find in stores). you can't use a universal needle which is okay now as i have a coverpro which uses the same needles.

the coverstitch isn't hard to thread but i find it takes some time to get the four thread threaded (5-10mins), mind you i don't have another serger to compare it too. hope this helps!

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Date: 10/22/10 1:27 PM

Thank you so much for your reply. I am glad you like your machine.

I think in retrospect I should have titled this Pfaff coverlock 4.0 or Viking Husklock s-25. They are basically the same machine and I think I would have gotten more feedback. There seems to be more people buying the s-25 than the coverlock 4.0.

If anyone has any input concerning the s-25 I would very much appreciate it

Thanks again for all of the information on this site.



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Date: 10/23/10 12:10 PM

I have had the Viking S25 now since they first came out, I think about a year ago? Anyway, I think overall it has some nice features but as performance goes, it has been ok. In fact I just made a pair of pajama bottoms using the 5 thread safety stitch and wide coverstitch last weekend using it.

The touch screen is nice, but I do wish you could just select the stitch by putting in the number. How it's set up, you have to scroll through all the stitches to get to the one you want. As far as converting it from "serger" to "coverstitcher", it's incredibly fast and easy compared to some other combo machines. You don't have to change stitch plates or even feet. You just have to switch and internal lever from "s" to "c", thread it for the appropriate coverstitch, and put on the coverstitch table.

Everything I've done on it, I pretty much have had to adjust from the automatic tensions. Some of them are way off from the set tensions. Basically, just on the looper tensions though. The needle tensions seem to be good as well as the chain/coverstitch looper. That one also seems to be good. The stitch quality is good, but at times there is a hiccup along a seam, a stitch that is all wonky but then goes back to normal. Once I get the tension just right for a certain fabric, I do save it in memory which is also a nice feature. The tensions being off could just be on my machine alone though.

I have to also help it going over a bulky seam, it likes to just hang up on a seam intersection. In my opinion, it's quite loud and overall doesn't seem to be that sturdy. But, that's just my feel of it, it performs fine, just doesn't have that sturdy vibe to it. I had a Viking 910 and 936 before this one and they seemed to be much more sturdy, better built and better stitch quality.

Overall, it's ok, but if I had to do over again, I probably wouldn't get it. I think they are priced too high for what you actually get. Also as much as I like the new high tech, computerized things, I think I would be just as well off having a non computerized serger for what I do with it.

Hope this helps.
-- Edited on 10/23/10 12:12 PM --

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Date: 10/24/10 3:59 PM

Thanks for your advice on the S-25. I have demoed the coverlock 4.0 once and the S-25 twice. I liked that the S-25 had the fabric advisor. I brought a really stretchy shiny knit to serge on and it did beautiful on the rolled hem once I picked that type of fabric in the fabric advisor. We then turned the stitch length to the smallest it would go to see if it could still handle this very difficult fabric and I was surprised that the rolled hem was still beautiful. Then we switched it to cover stitch which was very easy as you said. It coverstitched this fabric very nicely and I had already sewn a seam in this fabric to see how it would do and it handled it fine. We did slow down when we went over the seam, but there were no skipped stitches.

Then we switched to a very heavy thick canvas to see how it would do ( it had a seam in it too) and it handled that fine. It appears that the fabric advisor tweaks the settings to handle whatever fabric one is using.

I am concerned about this machine however as you don't seem that the impressed. I am supposed to be picking it up tomorrow. I hope I don't regret this. I didn't read your comments till we got back from the store. Yikes!!

I know that all coverlock 4.0's and huskylock s-25's were recalled in August & Sept to fix something at the factory. The sales person told me this machine was brand new and built after the recall. She said she had just brought it back from convention and it came right out of the box. I am hoping this might make a difference. We shall see.

Thank you again for your help



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Date: 10/24/10 10:16 PM

It sounds like you really tried it out and put it through it's paces which is good! I'm sure you'll be happy with it then. Please don't let my comments worry you. Just because it might not be the right one for me doesn't mean the same for you. Alot of it also has to do with that it's kind of overkill for for what I do with it. It was kind of an impulse purchase for me since I got the 936 only a couple months before it and saw all the new features of this one being the tech geek I am! I traded in my 936 for it and since it was within a year, I got full trade in value for it. It ended up being $300 more otherwise I probably wouldn't have bought it.

I did forget to mention the rolled hem which I used a couple of times and it has been right on for that, like you said. And haven't had any problems with skipped stitches either.

This is the second time I've read about a recall on them. I haven't heard anything about it from my dealer and maybe that has something to do with the couple little issues I have with mine, like tensions. Did they happen to say what the recall was for?

And congrat's on it! Overall, it's a fun machine to use.
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Date: 10/25/10 10:36 AM

No, neither dealer I have been to has said the reason for the recall. But, they said all machines (coverlock 4.0 and huskylock s-25) had to go to the factory to have something changed. Maybe someone else might know the reason. I am sorry I couldn't help you. As you said maybe the "fix" could help your tensions situation. I got the impression there was no charge for this fix.



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Date: 10/25/10 8:53 PM

I just sent an email to Viking asking about it. If I don't hear back by this weekend, I'll just ask my dealer since I'm going to be there anyway. Thanks for the info.



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Date: 10/27/10 8:15 PM

I just received the below email message in response to me asking about the recall.

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I am not aware of any recall for the Husqvarna Viking Huskylock S25 serger.
We have not been advised that there is a recall.

Sincerely,

Christine
Viking/Pfaff Consumer Affairs Department
SVP Worldwide



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Date: 11/13/10 3:09 PM

Well, I just got back from my dealer and she informed me that my s25 is due for it's one year service. She then told me that they have to first send it out to have the pc board changed in it. She said she already sent and got back all the ones she had in stock and as they come in for service they are sending them out to have this done. They have very good techs at my dealer and she said they are still required to be sent out for this change. I asked her the reason why the board had to be changed out and she said they didn't get any details. Oh, they also send new spool caps since the ones that came with it don't fit, at least the first ones sent out.

I don't know what the deal is with them writing that they have not been advised of any recall. Obviously it isn't a secret if they have to be sent back to have the board replaced.

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