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bookwormbethie
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Date: 10/19/10 2:59 PM

For reference, I am referring to Simplicty pattern 4589
http://www.simplicity.com/p-2163-misses-tops.aspx

I have learned from sewing garments, that it is better to pay attention to the finished garment measurements -- often located at the bottom on the back of the pattern envelope & also on the pattern tissue paper -- than trying to match up your measurements with a particular size. Makes sense to me

With Simplicity 4589, the size 6 has a 38.5" finished bust. This seems pretty big to me and will be big on me. My question is this, this top has gathers across the front. I'm trying to figure out if 38.5" is the for real actual finished measurement across the bust, or if it could possibly be less since the top is gathered. Does what I'm asking make sense?

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Date: 10/19/10 7:02 PM

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I'm trying to figure out if 38.5" is the for real actual finished measurement across the bust, or if it could possibly be less since the top is gathered
Did you get the 38.5" measurement from the pattern envelope, or from measuring across the pattern? If you got it from measuring across the pattern, it's going to be big; there are gathers, which means extra fabric, which means lots of ease. It seems to me that what you're saying is that the 38.5" measurement for the "finished bust" is including the fabric for the gathers. Refer to your pattern envelope for the size, and pick the size closest to you. If you're between sizes on the envelope, choose the one that's easier to adjust, usually the smaller one, and add to the side seams one fourth the amount (because you have four seam allowances).

Always work with the size on the envelope; not on the pattern for choosing your size. This pattern is a great example, because it has all that ease.
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Date: 10/19/10 7:24 PM

This pattern has 8" of ease as printed on the pattern tissue. I would highly recommend making a muslin first to see if this amount of ease is good for you. You may prefer less but in the end, it all depends on your fabric.

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Date: 10/19/10 8:27 PM

i got the 38.5" measurement from the pattern envelope, it has that as the finished garment measurement for a size 6. i have not checked the tissue paper.

i have never used the pattern tissue to determine my size, i always use the envelope and pay close attention to whatever info is provided on the finished garment measurements. this particular pattern & finished bust measurement (on envelope) is just confusing because of the gathering in the actual pattern/design itself.

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Date: 10/19/10 8:30 PM

see i understand the 8" of ease, i assume some is for wearing comfort (so it's not skin tight) and the other for the gathers.

but again, is the finished bust really 38.5" as indicated on the back of the pattern envelope? i don't have a large chest (i'm a little less than 32" across the appropriate bust measurement), so i'm thinking this shirt might be really baggy on me if the actual finish is 38.5 as i would have an extra 4" of ease on each side????

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Date: 10/19/10 10:17 PM

The only way to know for sure of the actual measurement is to measure the pattern. With a regular blouse you would probably get 3-4 inches of designer and wearing ease, so #4589 is about 6.5 inches over your measurement. It includes part of the desgin fullness which is in the front and back.

I also usually go by what is written as the finished measurement, but sometimes will double check by measuring the pattern itself. One way to decide is to take some soft fabric measured out to 38.5" and hold it around you.
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Date: 10/20/10 9:08 AM

It does look like a loose fitting top below the yoke & sleeves, and loose fitting = lots more fabric.

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Date: 10/26/10 10:23 AM

thank you. so it seems what you are saying is that i should measure the actual pattern. and if the actual pattern is bigger than 38.5" (or whatever exact correct measurement i provided in my first post) than 38.5" is indeed the final finished bust garment measurement?

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Date: 10/26/10 12:49 PM

What I was saying is to make certain that their amount of 38.5", as writtten under Finished Measurement is correct, measure the pattern itself. It will be a verification. If you were told something weighed 3 pounds you could verify it by weighing it yourself---same idea.

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Date: 10/26/10 1:00 PM

When you flat pattern measure the pattern, do not include the seam allowances. Go from seam to seam, to seam.

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