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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Which vintage machines can monogram? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 2/8/11 2:43 PM

I've been thinking lately that I'd like to get a machine that will do monogramming. Seems like I've seen a few that either have the alphabet stitches built in or more likely they have cams. Does anyone know if these exist? I don't think I need an embroidery machine just something that I can use for simple monogramming. Any help is appreciated.

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Date: 2/8/11 3:10 PM

I have a vintage Kenmore with a monogrammer attachment. It works very well.

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Date: 2/8/11 3:15 PM

Singer and Necchi have monogram attachments.

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Date: 2/8/11 4:21 PM

Computerized machines have alphabets in them, but they're not really quality monograms. I use the alphabet in my machine to put sizes on bias tape, then sew them into my son's clothes (so I don't forget what size I made).

Singer, Kenmore, and some other brands had monogram attachments, much like buttonhole attachments, that make a nice monogram from what I've seen. I remember seeing a few threads about monogram attachments, maybe a quick search of the site would help you out!

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Date: 2/8/11 6:26 PM

I have a Janome monogrammer set that fits any low shank centre needle zz machine. It has all the letters included. I think the Singer, maybe the Kenny ones as well only included your fav 3 letters, and the other 23 were a big upsell.

Personally, I do freehand lettering on my treadle machines.

Jennifer in Calgary

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Date: 2/9/11 11:43 AM

Having my original now-vintage Kenmore machine, and recently acquiring another, I too thought that monogramming was the only embroidery feature I really wanted, and I started looking into this. There are some PR threads on monogrammers, and you can also check the old and vintage Kenmore and Singer Vintage attachment Yahoo groups, but I think this summarizes what I have learned there, Googling, and on Ebay. (I'm a novice, so I can't vouch for how it all works.)
My Kenmore 158.1914 came with a monogrammer with all the letters, which monograms in 2 sizes. According to ads in old Sears catalogs (which are fascinating, by the way), there are other Kenmores of that period that came with the attachment, which was also sold separately. Mine is a super-high shank machine, but they may have made that attachment in various shank types. You can often find these on Ebay, but I don't know if the attachment works on all machines because it has a type of gear on the plate. These cams are the "ruler" type, and are all the same length.
The Janome attachment seems similar to the often-seen Singer slant-needle one (occasionally also for vertical), which takes round cams. I don't know if the Janome and Singer cams are interchangeable. I think I once saw on Ebay some small letter cams for the Singer, but only once. It looks like a buttonholer attachment, and I think I've read that the needle cover plate (for machines that don't drop feed dogs) is machine-specific but may be interchangeable with the buttonholer plate. These should work on modern machines if the shank and the clamp are correct, as they hook on like buttonholers.
I have also gotten the attachment that usually came with 3 letters and a flower cam (or a larger version, I think with the Kenmores, that apparently could embellish buttonholes). The Singer version is called the DeLuxe Monogrammer. There is also a Greist Designer for Montgomery Wards machines. These came in short and high shank versions, as well as slant needle ones for Singers. The clamp may fit on the side differently on the Montgomery Wards and I think fits behind for Singer and Kenmores, but I'm not sure about this. The letters are larger than the 1914's. It should work on modern machines if you get the right shank type. I think the letters are interchangeable. These are "ruler" style cams too, but they vary in length according to the letter. I don't know if you need a specific needle plate for various Singers, or if that is only if you can't drop the feed dogs.
Getting all the letters, or at least those you want, for this type of monogrammer is the trick, since many people did not get complete cam sets and ordered only the 3 that came free or a few others. The attachments and various letter combinations are often on Ebay. The cams are interchangeable among the brands, I think. I have seen a set of all of them go for as much as $250, and I think one set that looked like everything originally came together with the attachment, all the letters , and a pad of tissue paper for backing (used in the pre-stabilizer era) just went for (gulp) $500! After attempting for a while to get the letters piece by piece, and getting many duplicates, I one day was inspired to look on ShopGoodwill. Lo and behold - a complete set of letters for a very low price. I think the title on these is Monogram Cam Set, but if you search for the monogrammer attachment, put in the word "monogrammer," and you might want to exclude "golf" and "ball" and "golfball," to avoid unnecessary results. As one poster told me (just before I went on ShopGoodwill), if you're persistent, you'll eventually find the cam set.
Good luck - and thanks to all the PR posters from whom I've learned so much.

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Date: 2/9/11 12:36 PM

Also, there are a number of monogrammers on Ebay now.

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Date: 2/10/11 6:57 AM

Wow! Thank you EVERYONE. I thought monogramming was made with internal cams - I didn't realize that there were attachments that made them. After looking at eBay it looks like the attachments have their own cams (?).

At any rate - now I think my question is how do I figure out what attachments work with which machines? I see some of the eBay attachments have numbers on them but I have no idea if they will work with any of my Singer machines. Is there a place that has that info?

JT

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Date: 2/10/11 11:09 AM

No one has mentioned that you can do monogramming yourself with your machine and some tracings. I have done this with both an old Kenmore and a Pfaff mechanical. There are some threads here on free hand embroidery and monogramming. It's not that hard for the monograms. Threads has a fascinating video by one of the world's experts on embroidery.

Manuel's Embroidery...

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Free Hand Embroidery

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Date: 2/10/11 12:14 PM

Jennifer mentioned that she does monogramming freehand on her treadle machine. Very cool. And so not going to happen at my house!

Thank you for the links. I'll look but I just don't think freehand monogramming is in my near future! I'm just not that confident or coordinated!

JT

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