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Message Board > Machine Embroidery > Embroidery stabilizer, what's the right one for the projects ( Moderated by Pyrose)

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Date: 4/3/11 9:57 AM

I'm working on two separate projects, neither of which is working out. I think the stabilizer is the issue.

For the banner, made of triangular pennants, I used a 1 layer of a tear away. The pennants are "crinkly" and I don't care for it.

For the other project, I'm stumped. I've searched the boards but found nothing. What do you usually use as stabilizer when you make embroidered quilt squares. The design is a relatively dense regular embroidery design (as opposed to redwork, etc). Should I use a cutaway and leave it on everywhere.

Also I tend to use Sulky temp spray adhesive to attach my non-adhesive stabilizer...should I be using something else for these??

I'd appreciate any advice at all, I'm truly stumped.

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Subject: Embroidery stabilizer, whats the right one for the projects Date: 4/4/11 9:29 AM

I'm bumping this up hoping some one will help me out...

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Date: 4/7/11 12:26 PM

Chrisquilts-2,
Sorry, can't give you any direct help with this, but..........
As a total newbie to machine embroidery I got so frustrated in my classes that I purchased this book from Amazon:
Machine Embroidery on Difficult Materials (Book & CD Rom) [Paperback]
Deborah Jones (Author)
It seems to be an excellent guide. Since I didn't know diddly about threads and stabilizers, I needed to separate that shortfall from the embroidery class. And, I thought if I have a guide for difficult, then surely I can do easy.

I wonder, too, if there are some cases where the stabilizers should be preshrunk. That sounds odd, but I often preshrink my interfacings to avoid this same type of problem. It is a nuisance as I often use iron on interfacing so it has to be dipped into the water and then hung to dry.

Also, being relatively new to the board, it seems that CJ Tinkle knows a lot. I bet you could ask her a direct question. She also has a site www.createdbycj.com.

Good luck.

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Subject: Embroidery stabilizer, whats the right one for the projects Date: 4/7/11 1:28 PM

If it's to be quilted I generally use a sticky back. Cotton since it's so lightweight gives you more problems with wrinkling and gathering and pulling up. Another thing I do when working with dense designs on cotton is to also use a lightweight batting underneath (the thin 100% natural cotton batting or fleece). You can either hoop the batting and pin sticky back and fabric to it or hoop all three. I also cut my pieces to be embroidered bigger and cut down after I embroider as it will draw up the fabric some.

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Subject: Embroidery stabilizer, whats the right one for the projects Date: 4/7/11 4:38 PM

On quilting cotton I would use a lightweight cutaway. If one layer doesn't seem sufficient, then you can always double up the stabilizer.

I've wondered about pre-shrinking too. I have sometimes found that when I hit a project with the steam iron, the stabilizer pulled up, kind of like it was shrinking. I haven't bothered to do any testing at this point, though.

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Subject: Embroidery stabilizer, whats the right one for the projects Date: 4/7/11 8:55 PM

I make it a rule to pre-shrink all my stabilizers by cutting them to fit the hoop, then hitting the piece with a good long shot of steam and pressing it with an iron. I find that the Madeira stabilizers, in particular, shrink alarmingly.

One trick for embroidery on quilting cotton is to starch the dickens out of the cotton before embroidering it. Spray, iron, spray, iron, and yes spray it a 3rd time and iron again. You want the fabric to feel like a heavy piece of paper.

Then hoop a pre-shrunk piece of stabilizer, spray with adhesive, and smooth on the quilting cotton.

Run a basting stitch outline in the hoop before you embroider the motif. If you search www.sewforum.com, you'll find several sets of free basting designs for almost any hoop size/machine type you can think of. I find that using a basting stitch rather than pins or spray adhesive alone really helps.

I normally use midweight cutaway stabilizer, and cut away as much as I possibly can. In particular, I try to cut between pieces of the motif, since the stabilizer itself can shrink and cause the embroidery to look puckered. Getting rid of as much as I can helps to minimize the puckers.

Good luck!

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Subject: Embroidery stabilizer, whats the right one for the projects Date: 4/7/11 9:04 PM

PS - one other trick for pennant banners is to hoop a piece of tear away stabilizer, and "float" a thing piece of craft foam behind the design, in a color to match the satin stitching outline thread.

I actually like to use 3 pieces of stabilizer: (1) hoop your tearaway or better yet, use a fibrous washaway, like Vilene. Float a piece of cutaway behind the Vilene. (2) Run your outline stitch, place your face fabric, and run the tackdown stitch. After you run the tackdown, remove the hoop, and trim the cutaway close to the outline stitch. (3) Stitch out the embroidery motif on the pennant. (4) Before you run the satin outline stitch, remove the hoop from the machine. Use a glue stick to dab a bit of glue on the backside of the embroidery motif, or give it a small shot of adhesive spray. Stick on a sheet of THIN craft foam, in a color that's close to the satin outline stitch. (5) Run the satin stitch and finish the pennant. (6) Remove the pennant from the hoop. Pull away the craft foam. Trim the Vilene close to the satin stitching, but don't nick it! Use a washcloth or sponge to remove the last traces of Vilene around the edges.

Here's the advantages: The craft foam just peels away from the satin stitching, no trimming necessary, and it give a lot of support to the pennant. It also hides the back of the embroidery motif. The cutaway adds even more support to the embroidery design. And using a wash away in the hoop avoids the fuzzies that are inevitable when you use a standard tearaway stabilizer.
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Subject: Embroidery stabilizer, whats the right one for the projects Date: 4/8/11 6:56 AM

When I made a banner I hooped tear away. Then to give the banner some support, I floated Peltex on top with a layer of felt on top of that. After stitching the outline and taking the hoop out of the machine I used spray adhesive and attached a fabric to the back of the hoop before I stitched the final satin stitch. Worked really well.

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Date: 4/8/11 8:23 AM

thanks...I just found an article in an embroidery magazine that uses felt basically as the stabilizer with an added deco touch. The felt is cut away using pinking sheers around the edge and shows all around. I might give it a try.

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Date: 4/8/11 8:24 AM

what is craft foam? I'm thinking foam core and that has got to be WRONG...

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