Member since 5/9/11
Date: 5/13/11 1:31 AM
I've finally narrowed down my first purchase to either the Brother Innovis NX-450 and PC 420 PRW. A dealer actually suggested the PC 420 PRW as an alternative, but I'm skeptical since it is so much cheaper. Also, you can find the PC 420 just about anywhere so are these just mass produced and cheaply made? Anyone know the major differences in the machines? Thanks for your help!
Member since 3/4/05
In reply to susiq.k
Date: 5/13/11 1:39 AM
Not much difference in these machines. The NX-450 has the newer front panel. In fact, if you look up the manual at the Brother site for the PC-420, the .pdf is titled NX-400, the predecessor to the NX-450. Amazon recently dropped the price on the PC-420....so many great features for the money!:
Member since 5/13/09
Skill: Advanced Beginner
Date: 5/13/11 3:39 AM
The PC-420 has a 6-point feed dog system while the updated NX-450 has a 7-point feed dog system. Not sure if that makes much of a difference since it seems a lot of people are very happy with their PC-420.
Another difference is that the stitches are picked by going through a menu on the PC-420. On the NX-450 you enter in the number of the stitch you want. The stitch patterns for the NX-450 is on a stitch card that you attach to the handle. I prefered going through the menu because I didn't want to worry about losing the stitch card.
Have you had a chance to search the board for other topics on the PC-420 and NX-450? I'm sure there have been plenty of questions regarding these two models.
Also, check out the sewing machine reviews here on PR. I think most, if not everyone that owns the PC-420 are really happy with it. Besides the reviews here and on Amazon, HSN also sells the PC-420 so you can check out reviews there.
Are you able to sew on both machines at a dealership? It comes down to personal preference how you like the set-up of each machine. Are you planning to buy the PC-420 off the Internet? Since you're new to sewing maybe a dealer is the way to go. They can teach you all the aspects of your machine and you'll feel confident knowing you can ask questions and have support. Also, when you buy from a dealer you usually get 1-year free service so if anything comes up you can bring it to them to fix for free.
I, personally, wouldn't spend $750 on the NX-450 since the PC-420 is only $410 on Amazon right now. BUT, if you've found a dealer you really love maybe you can get them to go down on the price a little and it would be worth it to get the dealer support and lessons.
I am finding these days that my focus when purchasing a machine is more about closeness to dealership and what kind of support I will receive after purchasing the machine. With gas prices over $4/gal. around here I'm less incline to drive around the county like I used to (to find the cheapest price). Also, as a fellow relative newbie to sewing (I'm a much better shopper than sewer, LOL), having a wonderful machine with all the bells and whistles means nothing when you don't really know all the needed sewing techniques to make the most of them. I've recently found a dealer just 3 miles away from home that offer private lessons after the purchase of their machines. I'm also fortunate to live about 20 minutes away from a dealer that carries all the brands you'll ever be curious about. They offer a lot of classes and lifetime lessons but in my situation (SAHM to a toddler and baby #2 arriving in two months), I know I'll never be able make it to any of them since they are held during the day on weekdays. So for me, the dealer down the street makes better sense.
With all that said, the PC-420 has been around for a while. It also used to be the Baby Lock Decorator's Choice (1st version - BLDC) and the Brother NX-400. I had the Baby Lock Quilter's Choice (BLQC) which was set-up the same way as the PC-420 with some extra features/stitches. It was a very nice machine and very quiet. Can you buy the PC-420 from a local dealer? That might be the way to go. Good luck and happy shopping!
-- Edited on 5/13/11 4:14 AM --
Member since 1/10/09
Date: 10/22/12 10:12 PM
Am trying to figure out which of these to purchase. I went to my local dealer and they do not carry the PC-420 because they said it is one of the "mass produced" machines and said the quality was inferior to the NX-450 that must be purchased through a dealer. However, when I use the "compare machines" function on the brother website, the only differences I see between these machines are:
1. NX-450 weighs 1 pound more (18 # versus the 17 # of the PC-420) - unsure if the difference in weight is related to the quilting table (not such a big deal) or differences in internal parts (may be a bigger deal)
2. The NX-450 has no free arm - is a HUGE deal for me. That makes me lean toward the PC-420.
3. The PC-420 has 6 feed dogs, the NX-450 has 7. ???significance
4. The PC-420 has on screen help - might be nice. The NX-450 does not.
5. The NX-450 comes with one extra quilting foot (I'm not a quilter so this isn't a biggie for me)
6. All the included accessories are the same, except the NX-450 comes with a "quilting guide" (don't know what this even is), an extra screwdriver (the PC-420 comes with 2, the NX-450 comes with 3), 3 extra bobbins, and a spool net (whatever that is).
7. The Warranty may be a little different, but it's hard to tell the difference from the website.
Am I missing something? The NX-450 is ~ $250 more at the local dealer than the PC-420 is on-line. They appear to be essentially the same machine. What gives. Any advice? Is there really an appreciable difference in a brother machine sold by the dealer and the ones available on-line? I'd buy one through the shop if they could meet my needs (automatic cutter, needle up/ down, good variety of decorative stitches and some built-in sewing fonts, and a free-arm), but they can't. So ... what's a sewer to do?!?
-- Edited on 10/22/12 10:13 PM --
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Subject: Brother PC-420PRW or NX-450...whats a better purchase? Date: 10/23/12 0:04 AM
I have a pc420 and love it. I tested the newer version at the dealer and liked it well enough. When I found the 420 is a renamed nx400, I decided to save $400 and buy off amazon. I haven't regretted it a single bit. The local dealer wanted $825 for the nx450. I don't believe it's inferior parts for a single minute. The specs on the pc420 and nx400 and Babylock decorators choice are identical. They look the same, have the same features, and have the same manual. The nx450 and decorators choice II are the updated version. You pay more for the upgraded options and mostly for dealer support. If you feel you need dealer support, go for the nx450. With my experience, these features and a great instructional manual I didn't feel dealer support was necessary forme so I chose the amazon route.
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Subject: Brother PC-420PRW or NX-450...whats a better purchase? Date: 10/23/12 1:07 AM
Please read my extensive review on the PC420. It is a great machine. Even if you buy off Amazon (which has 30 day return policy) there are many Brother authorized warranty centers around the country - many more than Singer - should you need warranty service.
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Date: 10/23/12 4:46 AM
Lelton, you posted that the NX - 450 does not have a free arm? I think it does have a free arm plus a nice extension table and I think it comes with a walking foot that comes in handy even if you are not a quilter. One of my machines is a similar Brother Quilt Club model and it is a very nice machine.
I hope you love the machine you choose.
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Subject: Brother PC-420PRW or NX-450...whats a better purchase? Date: 10/23/12 4:59 AM
One advantage of buying from Amazon is that you can return it if it is defective or even just not suitable for you. At a dealer, you can (usually) only trade-up, sinking more money into the situation.
I would really have to hear from a machine technician with no bias that the online models are lesser quality, to believe that.
Buying from a trustworthy dealer can be very beneficial for some. Not everyone has that option, not everyone needs it. It shouldn't double the price, however.
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Member since 5/28/11
Date: 10/23/12 11:40 PM
I looked at both of those-I thought they were the same machine at least I remember they seemed to have the same stitches etc. The 450 is wider isn't it? I had the 420 for awhile and did a review. I bought mine off Craigslist. It is a very good machine. I think either is a good machine. Dealer support is an issue-that is an advantage and partly why the 450 is more $$.
Member since 4/23/13
Date: 4/24/13 1:41 PM
Thanks everyone for the detailed comparisons. I'm considering both of these machines as well. I have the opportunity to buy a used, NX-450 that has been gone over by a sewing machine technician for about $400, the same price as a NEW PC-420PRW. Which machine did folks end up with and would you still go with the same one? Any comments on either machine?
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions!
Regards, Lisa "Elless"