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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Babylock Diana vs Enlighten ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Date: 10/25/11 1:03 AM

Any opinions on these? Wish I could combine the best of both! I like the 5-threads on the Diana, but the Enlighten has its own advantages. The Evolution looks great, but my budget can only stretch so far..... I've also looked at the Huskylock s25, but a couple of reviews haven't been so happy with it....

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Date: 10/25/11 11:21 AM

Get the Enlighten and buy a separate coverstitch machine. Either babylock or Janome.

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Date: 10/26/11 1:05 PM

That's how I was leaning... such decisions! I wasn't sure if I would miss the chainstitch, but the money difference to go to 5 thread is certainly not a small matter... plus the Enlighten has the LED lights and jet-air threading...

If I get the separate coverstitch machine, the only thing I'd be missing is the chainstitch, but I think I could survive without it.

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Date: 10/26/11 1:06 PM

Either way, I'm ready to move on. That almost 25 year old serger I have has seen better days!

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Date: 10/26/11 3:48 PM

Quote: Angela64
That's how I was leaning... such decisions! I wasn't sure if I would miss the chainstitch, but the money difference to go to 5 thread is certainly not a small matter... plus the Enlighten has the LED lights and jet-air threading...



If I get the separate coverstitch machine, the only thing I'd be missing is the chainstitch, but I think I could survive without it.

If you bought 2 machines and got the separate cover stitch machine, not to worry about not having a chainstitch because Coverstitch machines also do chainstitch

A separate coverhem machine however does not do the overlock stitches that overlock the edge that a serger can do. A coverhem machine also does not have a knife and does not cut off the edge of the fabric as a serger does.
You can use coverhem and chain stitches in the body of the fabric. The only stitch that can be done in the body of the fabric with a serger is a flatlock stitch. All other serged stitches are designed for edge stitching.

It is nice to have just one machine that does it all but some models take many steps and time to convert from serging to coverhem.
When purchasing a new machine I suggest to check out how easy or time consuming the conversion takes on that model. I have a combo machine that is a discontinued model. It does many serged stitches and 3 cover hems and chain with easy and quick conversion. My serger is only a 4 thread Elna 744 and I would not trade it for another machine but if it ever died and I could not find another 744, I would probably purchase a serger and separate cover hem.
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Date: 10/26/11 4:32 PM

Ohh..somewhere I missed that a coverhem machine would do a chainstitch, how interesting!

So, I plan to get a 4 thread serger for Christmas and then save my pennies for a coverhem machine later in 2012. So many people say it is well worth it that I will do that.

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Date: 11/21/11 4:45 AM

I just brought home an Enlighten today, and I'm so excited! I've never used or owned a serger before, and the BabyLock threading and auto tension make it so easy to use. I already used it to overlock the edges of some fabric for a skirt I was making, and I played around with the ladder stitch, blind hem, and rolled hem. I'm scheduled to have a class at my dealer in a couple of weeks where I will learn a ton about all the features I can use on the serger, but it's definitely possible to be up and running as soon as you get it home, even if you don't have any serger experience. I would definitely recommend the Enlighten over the Diana for ease of use, as well as reliability from what I hear. I was hoping to get a serger with coverstitch as well, but I couldn't justify the price of the Evolution, plus I kept in mind the advice here to get separate machines. When I'm done paying off the Enlighten (got 12 months 0% interest financing from BabyLock), I'll get the separate coverstitch machine. I plan to look into the Janome models, although I might get too used to the jet air threading to want to bother with regular threading!

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Date: 11/22/11 11:59 AM

Just wondering what you paid for the Enlighten. Around here its $2400.

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Subject: Babylock Diana vs Enlighten - vs Imagine also... Date: 11/22/11 4:29 PM

I am the OP for this thread, and I finally went to the BL dealer. He didn't have any Enlightens for me to try out, but did have the Imagine, and said he sells lots of them, only one Enlighten in the past year. I was surprised, but then if they aren't out then it is hard to sell them.

So, if anyone has any comments, here is what the dealer told me:

Imagine (not wave kind) $1299, available now, Enlighten $1699, would take a week to get in.

He said the Enlighten is noisier to thread because there is a little motor instead of just jet air. Not a big deal to me...

No LED lighting on Imagine, but I have lighting..

I asked about size of presser feet, and that I'd heard the Enlighten had smaller feet - easier to use on curves. He didn't know anything about that either way.

Has anyone here used both? Have an opinion? I do think I'll get a good 4-thread and a separate coverstitch machine later, but the way he talked the Imagine was just as good and less expensive. I would love to have some thoughts on whether or not the additional $400 is worth it to get the Enlighten. Since I keep my machines for many, many years, I would rather spend it than regret a poor decision. Doens't mean I need to throw money away though! LOL!

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Date: 11/22/11 8:31 PM

My dealer had what was special pricing for them on both machines this past weekend. I think it's in line with what a lot of other dealers charge for these machines as regular pricing. I paid $1780 for the Enlighten. I could have gotten the Imagine (not the Imagine Wave) for $1100, but I knew I would miss the LED lighting too much. I sew a lot at night in poor lighting while DH plays video games where he doesn't like bright lights on. I'm okay with just my Ott light as long as I also have good lighting on my machine, so I wanted to pay the extra for the lighting. The other benefits are nice too - the wave stitch and the improved jet air threading - but I didn't have to have them like I did the lighting. Like you, Angela64, I didn't want to spend a lot of money and then regret it later, so even though the price difference seemed excessive to me for what you get, I decided to go with the more expensive Enlighten.

If the lighting isn't important to you and you don't care about the wave stitch, you should go for the Imagine. The difference in threading is really nothing to speak of - you just pump the little lever on the Imagine a couple of times instead of hitting a button once on the Enlighten. Not a big deal at all. I'm no expert since I only tested the Imagine at the store and have only had my Enlighten a couple of days, but they seemed to sew the same to me. The only difference is that the Enlighten seemed a bit quieter than the Imagine to me. The Enlighten has the same size presser feet as the Imagine - the 6 foot accessory package I got is marked as being for both the Enlighten and the Imagine. I do know that the Enlighten and Imagine feet are smaller than the Evolution. Also, that accessory package is free right now from BabyLock with the purchase of a serger, so make sure you get that from your dealer no matter which one you pick!

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