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Message Board > Sergers, Coverstitch and Blindhemmers > Considering older Elna sergers ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Considering older Elna sergers
Does anyone one a 624 Special Edition ?
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Date: 12/16/11 10:33 AM

I've been looking for a second serger. Not sure why, just want one... (sigh). This time I want a big, heavy "tank" that does a beautiful stitch and not too difficult to thread. One that is - like the music - heavy metal.

I am looking at an Elna 624, but cannot find any reviews. I read that some older Elnas have needle shaft problems $$$. Does anyone have experience with this machine or other older Elnas ?

I am also wondering if Elna and Pfaff are similar in quality.
Thanks so much for your reply.

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Date: 12/16/11 1:42 PM

I have an Elna 744 and as everyone knows I have raved for years about how much I love this serger and it is a tank, very heavy duty. I have to say though that before I bought it that I did try one of the Elna 600 models and I did not like it at all. It vibrated all over the table. There is such a difference between models in the same line between sound, vibration and stitch quality, so I suggest to try to sit and try one out before making a purchase.

It is also my understanding that the Elna 744 and 945 and probably other similar models in that series and time were made in the same factory in Japan as the Pfaff 4800 series. All are now discontinued.
I had a Pfaff 4842 and it had the same design as my Elna 744 but my Elna is a combo coverlock where the Pfaff 4842 was a basic 4 thread model. Both brands in these series can share the same feet etc.
My Pfaff 4842 was very sturdy (DDIL still uses it) and I think there was an Elna model that was identical and it might have been a 600 something but very different from the Elna that I had tried.

Now though models are not the same because ownership and brand distribution centers have changed. Elna is now headed by Janome in America and no longer under the distribution of Tacony and Pfaff is now under SVP and their serger models are much different.

As for the needle shaft problems, I think most problems generated from the tilt needle bar. My serger has this feature which I love because it makes it so much easier to change needles and my combo has 5 needle positions. I have never had any problems at all with my serger in any way.
The flip needle process has to be done properly though and if steps are not done in proper order..I think this would make for strain on the part and hence possibly caused the former problems..just imo.

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Date: 12/17/11 0:44 AM

I have a 644 and it shares the manual with the 624. I have 2 sergers, the 644 and an electronic Pfaff 4872. I bought the Elna off Craig's list for $100.00 a few years ago and it's going strong. Very basic 2/3/4 with differential feed. It's easy to thread and easy to adjust. If the 622 is a good price you should seriously consider it. I've never noticed a vibration with my Elna, I know it's quieter than the Janome/kenmores. Mine also has the tilt needle, but because this model only has 2 needles, I don't use it much.

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Date: 12/17/11 3:21 AM

Wow Diane that was a good price for your Elna. My Elna is also very sturdy with no vibration as was my Pfaff 4842. It seems I remember that the Elna that I tried that vibrated was the 686?? I remember it had some cards on it to be used for the different settings. These were loose cards where you could flip the pages I have never seen another serger quite like it. The serger might have been quite nice other wise, I just didn't give it much of a test because of the table shaking when I tried it out and the serger did not appeal to me compared to the sergers that I had been used to.

The Janome 1100D has the tilt needle clamp and I wonder if they have had any problems with it. I had an older basic Janome model that I gave to a family member. It was also very noisy but performed well. It also needed oiling often. My present sergers don't require oil except in one spot and not often.

My old Babylock never required oil and it was the quietest serger that I have ever used. I miss that serger and wish I never traded it in but it was damaged in transit from a move that I made when visiting my son in Montana. The tension knob was repaired but never was the same. I prefer lay in tensions now rather than the knob type of tensions.

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Date: 12/17/11 5:06 AM

I have the Elna 614 DE which I find is great. I bought this on eBay when I wanted to upgrade from an old 3-thread to a 4-thread. I decided to get another Elna because the 3-thread was such a work-horse - powered through anything I asked of it.
Not the model you are asking about, but my 2c worth!

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Date: 12/17/11 12:37 PM

Thanks ! I am reading and re-reading every post.
Betakin, can you explain what the "flip needle process" is ? I've never hear of this term.

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Date: 12/18/11 11:51 AM

The flip needle clamp is where you can tilt the needle clamp so that the clamp bends back and the needle tips face towards you so that you can remove or insert needles easily.
The procedure is very simple:
Make sure that the needles are in the up position and be sure that the upper looper is not in front of the needles then hand turn the fly wheel on the serger and align the triangle markings on the wheel to the triangle mark on the head.
Swing down the safety lever on the needle clamp
Press the needle clamp release button on the needle clamp while swinging the bar to tilt towards you.

After changing the needles just swing the clamp back in position just remember to also put the safety clamp lever back into position.

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Date: 12/18/11 12:16 PM

I've never bonded with my first and only serger, and Elna 686. Stitch is fine. Not hard to thread. I never took the class for it, so that's my fault. But it's loud. Maybe it's not loud as sergers go...

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Date: 12/18/11 7:13 PM

The Elna that I posted about earlier that vibrated was also quite loud and I do think it was the 686. It still might be a very fine serger but just did not appeal to me after using my Babylock for so many years. It was long ago that I tried out that Elna. My Elna 744 combo is not loud though and very solid and it has handled everything that I have asked of it and some tasks very heavy duty for a long time now with no problems. I really do love this serger.

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Date: 12/18/11 9:49 PM

I have the Elna 614de. I purchased it new, about 12 years ago. I have never had any problems with it, with very regular use. It has sewn everything I have thrown at it. I have a old mouse pad underneath it, I have it on a pretty lightweight table. The pad done help. This is a great machine. I highly recommend it.

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