SoftDelights
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Date: 1/3/12 6:42 PM Ok for those of you that have the subscriptions...and are familar with both....I'm trying to decide which one to get. My Euro pattern size is about a 42-44 (by high bust). It's so borderline for Burda (Plus is only twice a year?) I was thinking maybe the Ottobre....but I don't know. Please if anyone can comment on the value/ usefulness of the patterns. I'm also apple shaped and tall....but in my 30's and I have some muscle. I prefer the younger looking styles, as long as they aren't immodest. (no bikinis or midriffs!). I SAH so I use mostly more casual peices, and I'm not opposed to getting kids patterns too (I have a boy and a girl to sew for). I sew for myself because the RTW market for my shape is aweful....unless I want to wear sweats every day....which I don't. |
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Date: 1/3/12 7:33 PM I have lots of both pattern magazines, but I mostly sew from the Ottobre. I'm also an apple shape. ------
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Date: 1/3/12 7:56 PM In my opinion, Burda has younger, more stylish clothing than Ottobre. I have several issues of Ottobre and have yet to make anything from them. However, I have not been particularly happy with Burda's plus size designs of late. They are mostly oversized and unflattering. This is what has been in the last few months of Burda and that is where the plus designs are from lately. They will throw in a section of 'new' designs but they are mostly just reworked designs, not really new. ------
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Date: 1/3/12 8:04 PM Quote: Nancy K
In my opinion, Burda has younger, more stylish clothing than Ottobre.
It's funny how we all have different opinions. I would've said the exact opposite. I find most of Burda Plus to be frumpy and most of Ottobre to be too young for me, although there are quite a few gems too.
For a SAH wardrobe, I think Ottobre wins hands down. You can also easily order the back issues if you find you like the offerings. Harder to do with BP.------
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Date: 1/3/12 8:42 PM Actually Ottobre hasn't really got really plus patterns, just some that run also to larger sizes. If you can wear the larger of their sizes that is great, but Burda Plus is actually all plus. Ottobre has the most universal sort of styles - more for regular people, very practical and in my opinion, the very best drafting, and so very wearable for all ages I think. Burda is usually given to bag sort of things, and has up to really really large. I only made one Burda plus thing and it was large. If plus means large bust, then Burda is a good choice, especially if you are taller than average. Take a good look at the ladies who model for Burda Plus. If you are large busted and short, then try Petite Plus patterns. If I were young I would certainly prefer Ottobre! And even not young, I prefer Ottobre! :)
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Date: 1/3/12 9:33 PM I have both. For my casual lifestyle, I usually find something in Ottobre to fit my needs, they have lots of basics and variations of basics that are fun to wear and are not at all boring or frumpy. Burda patterns are pretty and I've made a few things for special occasions. But I just don't have a lot of need for silk dresses and low-cut blouses---call me suburban 
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Date: 1/4/12 1:20 AM Based on your borderline-plus size and your casual lifestyle, I would lean toward Ottobre Woman rather than Burda Plus. Burda Plus starts at 44, while most Ottobre goes throughout the size range (36-50, maybe?), so you'd have more choices without having to grade. The Ottobre styles are more basic but can really have your own style based on the fabric and styling you use. Burda tends to have more business wear and dressier items. The fitting is a bit different (I think Ottobre is maybe a bit more apple-ish and Burda more hourglass). But why not order a back issue of both and try them out? ------
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Date: 1/4/12 9:19 AM Burda is trendier, Ottobre tends to more mainstream/classic when you look at the line drawings. Some of their samples are styled in a funky, youthful way, but you can easily change that if you like.
Also, the fit is different - Burda fits broad shoulders, for instance. I was a Burda babe until I discovered that for me, the Ottobre woman draft was a better fit. Sometimes their plus sizes are just the regular pattern, but bigger. Sometimes they do things like add extra darts for the plus sizes, to accomodate a larger bust.
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Date: 1/4/12 4:20 PM Quote:
Actually Ottobre hasn't really got really plus patterns, just some that run also to larger sizes.
Yes, and I like that they give such a wide size range and don't specifically label things "plus." But quite a large number of Ottobre patterns DO go up to the same sizes as most Burda Plus magazine patterns (Eur. 50 or 52). So it's really just a labelling difference.
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Date: 1/4/12 4:39 PM Thanks for all the comments. I ordered one issue of Burda Plus off of ebay (the fall one that came out for 2011) and it came today....a lot of the stuff in there seemed kinda dressy for me, though interesting to look at I doubt I would actually sew it. The casual stuff looked like a lot of things I have already got patterns for, those that didn't were a little loose and bag like for my taste...it may just be the issue I got...but I see where some people were coming from on their comments. I don't like big billowy blouses....always felt they make me look bigger.
I have the same issue in RTW....I'm right in between misses & plus sizes. Since I'm trying to loose 20 pounds (that would put me in a size 10-12 US)....I may just stick to ottobre, and just buy burda patterns here or there if I need them. Because I'm 5' 10" most people don't think I'm "plus". I dislike most plus RTW but what really puts me in plus tops is my DD cup. My hips fit in a 16 misses...you see why I sew right? I was so glad when capris and 3/4 length sleeves started being poplular |
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