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AllegraVintage
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Date: 1/6/12 4:39 AM

I have simplicity 4921, which is a girls dress, size 4. What does that equate to in todays sizing?
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Date: 1/6/12 7:55 AM

I checked and looked at a 40s dress size 2 from Simplicity, then one from the Simplicity website, and they were both the same.

iirc, the boys patterns were the same from the 40s-60s compared to a modern, and a size 4 was a size 4 for him, and I had to take them in no matter what the era was (he's really skinny and vintage did not have slim options, but neither does a lot of newer patterns). But like adult patterns, I would measure the kid to be on the safe side if it's possible.

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Date: 1/6/12 4:03 PM

I was hoping to make the dress up for a friends daughter, as a surprise. She's 5, so should I make a 6? I can't find another copy of this dress on any websites incl etsy, ebay, ruby lane etc. So I think my choices are limited. Thanks for the advice!

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Date: 1/6/12 6:03 PM

That's a tough one. If you know the RTW size, you can look up a general chart and compare it to the pattern sizing to ensure it will fit fine.

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Date: 1/7/12 3:21 AM

RTW sizing and pattern sizing do not necessarily equate. I sew lots of vintage for my nieces, because the variety of dresses is greater and it's church dresses that they need because they're taller than average. You don't need her RTW size--you need her measurements. Measurements are everything, especially in vintage sewing. In general, vintage patterns will actually fit better because the don't have the ease of modern patterns. My niece, Bit, wears a RTW 4T because of the length, but is in both modern and vintage 3s. The vintage 3s fit closer to the body, and the neckline is higher. I usually end up trimming away the seam allowance in the neckline and collar so that she doesn't feel like it's choking her. Another thing you need to know about vintage dresses is that they're a heck of a lot shorter than modern. Standard these days is around knee length, and most modern dresses are closer to tunic length than dress length, so they need lengthened. (Bit needs 27 inch dresses. Standard length for her size is around 18 inches in vintage!)

Edit: I should have said. Width wise, Bit fits into 2T clothes, but we have to put her in 4T to get them long enough! You need the kid and a tape measure. And if I were you, I'd get every measurement from how big around her chest is to how long her arms and torso are!
-- Edited on 1/7/12 3:24 AM --

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Date: 1/7/12 4:55 AM

Thank you Brightfeathers I will! I'm going to start on dress that she knows about so, I'll get everything I can. :)

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Date: 8/8/12 7:20 PM

of of the vintage dresses I have done from the 50's, I did in a size 6 but it is more like a size 8. The reason that the vintage patterns didn't come in "slim" size is because they expected everyone to be slim. They actually made patterns that were adaptable for "chubbies".

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Date: 8/10/12 11:55 AM

I have several vintage girl patterns that state right on the envelope "not suitable for chubby girls" not PC but does get the point across. I have one grand daughter that is tall and very slender and the patterns are great for her but as mentioned before lots of length needed. Get out that tape measure and have fun!

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Date: 8/10/12 11:56 AM

I have several vintage girl patterns that state right on the envelope "not suitable for chubby girls" not PC but does get the point across. I have one grand daughter that is tall and very slender and the patterns are great for her but as mentioned before lots of length needed. Get out that tape measure and have fun!

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