Sewing Patterns, Pattern Review, Sewing Classes, Sewing Machines and Sewing Machine Reviews!
Platinum Sponsor: Stylish Fabric
Over 20,000 of high quality reorderable fabric

[SIGNUP - FREE Membership & 1 FREE Sewing Lesson ]
[Sewing Classes|Shopping Bag Your Shopping Bag|Login|Help]
Sewing Review and Pattern Reviews Sewing Knowledge Base Sewing Patterns Sewing Classes & Sewing Lessons Sewing Machine & Embroidery Machinery Sewing Message Boards Sewing merchants Blog Help/FAQ About Pattern Review
Enter your e-mail address:




Advanced Search
Tags
New to PR?
Sewing Machines
Compare Sewing Machines
Sewing Machine & Serger Reviews
Embroidery Machines
Sewing Reviews
Sewing Patterns
Review Gallery
Sewing Books
Sewing Supplies
Sewing Websites
Sewing Stores
Sewing Class Reviews
Sewing Expo Reviews
Sewing Tips & Techniques
Sewing Podcasts
NEW!Fabric Glossary
Sewing Review Requests Add a Review Request
Your Account
Edit Profile
My Page
Favorites
Wish List
Pattern Catalog
Notifications
Friends of PR
Join Friends of PR
Find a member
Deal Corner
Photo Album
Calendar
Chat Room
Chat Schedule
Chat Transcripts
Sewing Classifieds
Add a Classified
Sewing Contests
enter contest
contest report
contest gallery
Favorite Links
reviews with comments
merchant gallery
article archive
newsletter archive
Craft Resources
contact info
shipping rates
returns & refunds
testimonials

Platinum Sponsor - Stylish Fabric
Stylish Fabric
You are not logged in. Login here.



Message Board > Pattern Modifications, Design Changes & Pattern Drafting > Gotta Stop!

Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
Go to Page:
Gotta Stop!
JTink
star
JTink
Intermediate
VA USA
Member since 4/20/08
Posts: 5706
Login to reply to this post

Date: 1/14/12 5:17 PM

I've finally come to the conclusion that I have to stop tweaking my patterns. I have a TNT jeans pattern that I have tweaked to the point of uncomfortable. When I put on a pair I made a year ago, they feel great. With every new pair that I have made, I've had to tweak the jeans in some way. I would then transfer the "tweak" to the pattern. Wrong! I've figured out the reason I'm not getting that good fit when I cut from the pattern, is I am using different types of material with each pair of pants, some with with a bit of lycra, some 100% cotton. I guess it's the DUH moment. Once the pattern is adjusted, it may not work on the next type of fabric I cut.
So, I've decided to get the pattern as close to "feeling good" as I can, then do the tweaking on each individual pair as I make them

julie w
star
julie w
Intermediate
AUSTRALIA
Member since 12/25/06
Posts: 775
Login to reply to this post

In reply to JTink


Date: 1/14/12 7:18 PM

This is what I do now. I once made some shorts in two thought to be similar fabrics, one fit really well the other too small to put on. I now use 1" seam allowances and fit as I sew with my TNT.
You're still ahead of me as I need to get a TNT jeans pattern, I just keep waiting for my weight to stop yo-yoing.

------
Julie, Perth, WA

Miss Fairchild
starstarstarstar
Miss Fairchild  Friend of PR
Advanced
USA
Member since 8/24/02
Posts: 7936
Login to reply to this post

In reply to JTink


Date: 1/14/12 8:11 PM

Quote:
I've figured out the reason I'm not getting that good fit when I cut from the pattern, is I am using different types of material with each pair of pants, some with with a bit of lycra, some 100% cotton.
This is where I will clip a piece of the fabrics I used to my pattern envelope/folder and write notes on what I did with each.

------
"Play the cards you are dealt, but choose who is sitting at the table"..AARP magazine

SEE MY ETSY SHOP HERE: http://www.etsy.com/shop/AuntMaymesAttic
My blog: http://auntmaymesattic.wordpress.com/

hazelnut
star
hazelnut  Friend of PR
Beginner
USA
Member since 1/7/09
Posts: 2310
Login to reply to this post

In reply to JTink


Date: 1/14/12 10:50 PM

That makes good sense. I certainly noticed a difference when I was working on muslins for my McCalls pants pattern a while back. The pattern said to use either knits or stretch wovens. For the first muslin I used a bamboo knit (cheap one), and then made 2 wearable (home-only) muslins, 1 from a light-weight stretch denim and 1 from a cotton/nylon/lycra French terry. Both fit differently, with the denim being tighter. My pattern still *needs* more tweaking, but I was quite surprised by the difference in fit between the stretch fabrics when cut from the same template.

Julie and Ms Fairchild, great tips for the future, thanks!

MNBarb
starstarstarstar
MNBarb  Friend of PR
Intermediate
MN USA
Member since 4/3/10
Posts: 1536
Login to reply to this post

Date: 1/15/12 9:22 AM

I can't believe how extremely different garments can be when cut from two similar fabrics. I'm a believer in the fit-as-you-go method even though it adds time to construction.

------
Barb
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." Thomas Edison
"I not only use all the brains I have, but all I can borrow." Woodrow Wilson

a7yrstitch
star
a7yrstitch  Friend of PR
Intermediate
TX USA
Member since 4/1/08
Posts: 5533
Login to reply to this post

In reply to JTink


Date: 1/15/12 3:39 PM

I tend to use a different pattern for the different types of fabric. I am about to embark on Butterick B5682, View E, Trouser. I know from past experience that it will be an ideal pattern for me so I purchased 3 of them at .99, one for each fabric type I had in mind.

And, as always, I measure me, the pattern, and a similarly fitting garment (of similar fabric) seam-to-seam at multiple points to come up with the right combination of adjustments for any particular pattern and fabric combination.

Regarding B5682, the only time I trace off a pattern would be for something like this pattern. If I'm crazy about the fit of the pattern in woven, I don't mind tracing off to have something to modify for gym or tai chi pants in a cotton/lycra knits. My primary fit issue is my extremely short crotch length (rise) which affects the fit as well as the proportions of detail placement. In this case, with my multiple pattern bargain shopping, I'll use one of those patterns for my to-knit conversion.

B5682
-- Edited on 1/15/12 3:42 PM --

------
I have no idea what Apple thought I was saying so be a Peach and credit anything bizarre to auto correct.

JTink
star
JTink
Intermediate
VA USA
Member since 4/20/08
Posts: 5706
Login to reply to this post

In reply to a7yrstitch


Date: 1/15/12 6:27 PM

a7yr, I also buy multiples in the patterns I like. At $.99 it just seems right I have gotten to the point where after I tissue fit, I will make the petite adjustments I know I'm going to need, then trace my pattern. I'm just a lazy seamstress I rarely look at the "suggested" fabrics. I like "jeans" make out of twill and sports cloth, for the warmer weather. Early on with this pattern, I made some denim jeans with stretch(for cool weather) and after wearing them for an hour, I had to take them in...so, not thinking, I just started paring down the pattern as well. After 35+ years of sewing, I should know better by now I hope you are going to review B5682. I have that pattern in my stash and would like to hear how it goes together

a7yrstitch
star
a7yrstitch  Friend of PR
Intermediate
TX USA
Member since 4/1/08
Posts: 5533
Login to reply to this post

In reply to JTink


Date: 1/16/12 3:08 PM

Hi Tink,

After reading your post, I looked at the reviews that are already posted on B5682 (duhh, why didn't I do that before?) I see that the reviewers are having to do more than tweak their patterns. Their alterations don't concern me, but since they are so drastic, I'll have to consider how to approach the side pockets. They were losing depth in the pocket when the pants had to be so drastically taken in at the sides.

My real concern after seeing the reviews is that the pattern is not as low cut as depicted on the pattern. I can fix that too, but, bummer, that was a primary reason for me to buy B5682 since I have such a short rise.

In the meantime, B5682 is competing with V8479 in my stash. I had forgotten about the low sitting back yoke on V8479. Don't like the shape of the back pocket, but certainly see where the back 4 piece yoke will really customize the fit.

Regardless, I put on about 1 lb last year for each month that I was dependent on crutches. I'll be spending 6 weeks or so in the gym attacking that before sewing the pants. Each of the pounds landed exactly in the sitting regions

------
I have no idea what Apple thought I was saying so be a Peach and credit anything bizarre to auto correct.

JTink
star
JTink
Intermediate
VA USA
Member since 4/20/08
Posts: 5706
Login to reply to this post

In reply to a7yrstitch


Date: 1/16/12 3:17 PM

I haven't checked the reviews on that pattern either. It's one I bought at a $.99 sale and just stuck in in my uncut stash box. I like the way the Connie Crawford jeans worked on me(B5403), after I got them altered. They were a lot nicer fit than some of her patterns.

Go to Page:
Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com. If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Post button to report it. Pattern Modifications, Design Changes & Pattern Drafting >> Gotta Stop!

Merchants on PR
Elliott Berman Textiles
Fabrics for Greater Ideas
Deals!
Sewn Square One
Patterns for Your Style.
Web site
Gwyn Hug
Fabric Shopping Help!
Deals!
Lanetzliving Vintage Sewing Patterns
Vintage Sewing Patterns
Deals!
Style Arc sewing dress patterns
Patterns That Fit
Web site

Copyright © 2014 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.
Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Privacy Policy | Contact Us
Online Sewing Classes
Altering Jackets
Fee: $19.99
(Regular $59.00)
Altering Jackets

Online Sewing Classes
Blueprints to Blue Jeans
Fee: $29.00
(Regular $49.00)
Blueprints to Blue Jeans

Oliver + S Red Riding Hood
photo
Review by justinsbri... on 11/19/12
Read Review

Maria Denmark Pernille Pencil Dress Digital Pattern Size C
Maria Denmark Pernille Pencil Dress Digital Pattern Size C

Details
Price: $10.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Lily Bird Studio Maddie's Dress Digital Pattern
Lily Bird Studio Maddie's Dress Digital Pattern

Details
Price: $8.90
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Other 1203
photo
Review by JEF on 8/11/12
Read Review

Islander Sewing Systems Moebius Scarf Pattern
Islander Sewing Systems Moebius Scarf Pattern

Details
Price: $9.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Petite Plus Patterns Yoked Blouse
Petite Plus Patterns Yoked Blouse

Details
Price: $21.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Vogue 8947 Pattern ( Size 14-16-18-20-22 )
Vogue 8947 Pattern ( Size 14-16-18-20-22 )

Details
Price: $25.00
Add to Bag Add to Bag

McCalls 6477 Pattern ( Size )
McCalls 6477 Pattern ( Size  )

Details
Price: $18.95
Add to Bag Add to Bag

Subscribe to PR Message Board Feed Subscribe to the PR Message Board Feed Add to My Yahoo! Subscribe at NewsGator Online Subscribe at Bloglines Add to MyMSN