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Date: 2/4/12 3:01 PM

I have been working for a temp agency to help pay for some really expensive dental work. This experience has been a real eye opener for me.
Most of the time there’s a group of people from a number of different temp agencies that show up for the job. I have worked enough of these jobs now that I am running into the same people so I have learned a little bit about them. What I find really sad is that most of these temp workers are younger people than do not have the means to go to college and are desperate to find full time jobs. Most of the workers are hoping that if they do a really good job the company will hire them on full time, which doesn’t happen very often. It is really hard to see the disappointment in their eyes when it does not happen. A few lucky ones will get a temp job that lasts a year or more. Of course being temp workers they are not entitled to benefits so have no health insurance.
I find it heart wrenching. They are struggling so just to keep some kind of roof over their heads and food on the table. We read about unemployment and hear the statistics but it really hits home when you see it for yourself.
I am starting to feel guilty for taking a job away from someone who needs the work way more than I do.
The other thing that has really struck me is the fact that the harder you work the less you get paid.

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Date: 2/4/12 3:38 PM

I did temp work for a long time. When I was new in the area, it was easier to get than a regular job. I made sort of a career out of it for a time, but it has all the drawbacks you mention, plus some employers seem to think of temp workers as lacking stability. I also used to hear some of the agencies mentioning the possibility of being hired permanent by the company & depending on where you were it could be anything from possible if you were lucky to highly unlikely. I think a lot of the time they just should not be saying that... I had five temporary jobs at one large employer & only once did I hear of a person being hired permanent there (she was subsidized.) I have heard of some companies using a temp agency to find/screen/try out new employees but I didn't get sent to any places like that.
On the good side, it is interesting to be moving around. And when I decided to go back to school and change careers, the agency I worked for was cool with it. The only limitations I had with the temp jobs when I went back to school, my classes were in the evening & I could really only work day shift.
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Date: 2/4/12 5:13 PM

Sister Ada, it's going to get WORSE.

I teach GED Test prep. At a meeting concerning the upcoming New Version 2014 GED, we were given the following statistic:

The upcoming generation must expect and be ready to have 7 different career changes in their lifetime. Not JOB changes -- COMPLETE CAREER CHANGES, where they'll have to back for school/training and gear up for a whole new profession like: secretary -- pizza chef -- carpenter -- sanitation worker -- astronaut -- veterinary assistant -- day care provider

I'm telling ya, I'm glad I lived when I lived because I think it's going to be way harder for the next Gen. They're not even going to be able to work at McDonalds without a HS diploma, I tell ya!

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Date: 2/4/12 5:38 PM

I have done temp work in financials before and few other things. I think the most important thing to understand, is that your agency is your only employer no matter what, and spent all the money to recruit you, (even if it was only an add in the yellow book pages of the telephone book sometimes and their personnel costs) and run your payroll checks, and do all that human resources work/government tax reporting on you, (and take all the liablilty on you too) and not the physical location you are at. And the way it works most times, is there is a huge "head hunters" fee on your head, to reimburse that agency, no matter what, if you were to decide to work for them perm and for real (the client company) instead.Or they ever want you that way. It most times works that way, no matter what your job title or what that consists of, or what your salary is. But read your contract to see.

What this means, to you; most times is that if you let them send you to a location, and you work even one hour there, then that client company really cannot hire you direct, as more a free agent, for most times a specified time period in the future, as specified in your contract with them, and the client company, often even for a year or two years down the road, without first paying off that huge head hunters kind of temp agency fee on your head, to the agency. Even if your agency does not talk about that with you and make a big deal out of it, when you join up. They don't have to, as most times it's in the contract you sign with them even. so as long as you sign, it applies. Most times, my head hunter fee on that, was about $10,000 and on up. As a one time, payment then, (from client company to agency, not out of my pocket at all though) in order to break the contract legally.

This is how it works most times, if an Agency places both temp or direct, or even temp to perm. It still works that way most times, even if a company you are physically at, pays for you temp, and says they might sometime in the future or even does hire you later as perm too. Even if you are not privy to seeing all of that, or knowing the exact amount, they might pay, for you, for that service.

Twice, I did have that happen for me. But never quite that way, just alol by it's self. Once I even cut my own check for that, back to the agency, at the client company a week later, which I thought was kind of funny even, as the position that occurred in, just also happened to be the one that cut the checks. However that might never have happened, or never been hired on as just permanent instead, if I had not done some stuff on purpose to make that happen.

In one case I had worked someplace temp prior, did stuff they valued and saved/made them money, so was desired, so they called me back and wanted me back temp later, and I was not too interested in that, so just said no, won't do it, unless you do permanent instead, and you will have to pay that huge head hunters fee to my agency. They thought about it for about a day, and agreed. And worked it out then, with the agency. So all turned out good for everyone, and all on the up and up and no legal and binding contracts broken at all.

Another time I signed up for a different Agency, that placed both temp and perm (keeping in mind they were going to get their cut in either about 1/2 over my paycheck each week or a head hunters fee paid by hiring company, if hired straight in from them anyplace) and they on their first send out, they sent me to a "job interview" they said could be temp to perm, and while there, I liked them, they liked me, and I was just honest and upfront with them, and just told them (the client company) if they wanted my full attention, they needed to hire me perm right from the get go, or I would still be sort split attention wise and have to keep interviewing for more perm jobs on my own, and even while working there temp. So they thought about that for a day, and decided to hire me perm from the agency, and the agency got their "full regular not temp kind of head hunters fee" on me, before I even showed up for first real day of work. I'm not sure and was not privy to and did not even bother to check how much that might have cost them, as it really made no difference to me at all. The agency was not mad or upset with me at all, instead actually very happy, as they profited and got their fee, and a lot up front all at the beginning, even maybe more than if they just billed them every week for my salary for a while, and then only paid me maybe 2/3 or 1/2 of that in the end each week.

So if it works out good for someone those kinds of ways, that kind of thing really can happen sometimes. But I would not take a temp job thinking it will always or ever turn out temp to perm, even if that kind of thing is mentioned as some kind of inticment either, just because of the above factors, and I think it really does not turn out that way most times, unless you are pretty active in doing some stuff (and other than only just a good job at whatever you do) to make that happen though.

So if you want to be hired someplace in particular direct someday within a limited time period, sometimes best not to let any agency send you there more temp instead, as then you actually do have all those other factors and pay outs factoring in also too and sometimes they really do not work to your advantage at all. On the other hand, if you really hate job interviews, and finding jobs, and prefer to let some Agency sort of do a lot of the work for you, then maybe it's not really always a bad thing at all, and actually more a really good thing sometimes instead. I could see how it could go both ways.

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Date: 2/4/12 6:19 PM

I've gotten my best jobs working temp to perm jobs. I highly recommend it. Everyone gets to try everyone else out first. Having said that, agency work is way down right now. Employers are not currently willing to pay out the fees to agencies to hire employees. But sometimes people are willing to work with it.

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Date: 2/4/12 6:34 PM

I like my temp job.
This is my first temp position and I do agree with some of your observations, but as someone who graduated from night school at 37, I really don't feel very sorry for the under-educated. There are so many flexible community colleges and universities these days that options are endless.
I had quite a few people tell me that I was making a huge mistake taking a 'consulting' position instead of continuing look for a permanent one, but I kind of like it.
One thing I really like is that it keeps you out of office politics.

I work through a branch of Adecco, and they do have insurance benefits. They aren't the best ones in the world, but corporations are slicing their benefits across the board.

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Date: 2/4/12 10:42 PM

I didn't know about the head hunter fee's. Wonder if that is true when the jobs are minimum wage type jobs?

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Date: 2/4/12 11:17 PM

I see you are in Iowa. Isn't unemployment there much lower?

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Date: 2/5/12 0:57 AM

Iowa's unemployment rate in Dec was 5.6.
Not sure where that is in the scheme of things?
When my husband was looking for work 2 years ago he couldn't even get an interview. He has since retired, so age probably had a lot to do with that.


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Date: 2/5/12 1:02 AM

I worked temp jobs for 4 weeks out of a day labor place, not a headhunter type of thing. They did charge the client about twice what they paid the employees. You'd think it would be cheaper for them to hire the worker, although some of the work was seasonal or one shot type of jobs. I did take an inventory at a local dept store, made sandwiches for a company that sold them at sports events and made clipstrips for a local sausage company. Very, very boring and tiring work! Some of the clients had long term contracts with the place and did request the same employees over and over. I did get offered a permanete position with one company, but by that time I had decided to go back to my former employer at another store.
You do have to have some kind of skill set to get offered a perm job through these miniumn wage places. I could drive a forklift and I didn't realize that there was a temp place for that that charged about double what mine was charging..so they would have been saving money with me! Others that were offered full time positions had temped at the places for months.

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