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Copying these pants by Dries Van Noten
asafina Intermediate Member since 2007 Posts: 25	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/12/12 9:13 PM How do I get the shape of these pants? I have nothing like this among my patterns (I sew almost exclusively from Burda magazines), so I will have to modify some other pattern, most likely of a bootcut pant. If anyone knows of how to do so, or point me to an existing pattern with this shape (or better yet, show pattern pieces), I would be grateful. -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:14 PM -- -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:17 PM -- -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:20 PM -- -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:20 PM -- -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:21 PM -- -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:24 PM --
EleanorSews   Advanced MI USA Member since 2007 Posts: 3443 Board Moderator	Login to reply to this post In reply to asafina Like this post Date: 2/12/12 9:15 PM Can you provide us with a link or the URL? ------ "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." Anais Nin "Attitude is the difference between an adventure and an ordeal." unknown
asafina Intermediate Member since 2007 Posts: 25	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/12/12 9:19 PM I am trying to post a url.... I guess I am not understanding the instructions properly. The unclickable url is: http://www.yoox.com/item/YOOX/DRIES+VAN+NOTEN/dept/women/tskay/E65668BF/rr/1/cod10/36311752VW/sts/sr_women80 ----------- Okay, I added a clickable link now in the original post. -- Edited on 2/12/12 9:25 PM --
GlButterfly Intermediate CA USA Member since 2008 Posts: 1898	Login to reply to this post In reply to asafina Like this post Date: 2/12/12 10:33 PM Since there are always a ton of questions here on fitting pants, I find it interesting that these pants don't fit the model very well, front or back. Sorry, I don't have an answer for you, but someone is bound to come along and be able to make a suggestion.
skae   Advanced MN USA Member since 2007 Posts: 2257	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/12/12 10:38 PM here's the pants ------ ý1 Corinthians 13:4-7 "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
LauraTS   Advanced Beginner CA USA Member since 2006 Posts: 1716	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/12/12 10:41 PM They look like a fairly straightforward fly-front wide leg trouser with a flat front and a separate waistband to me. Surely Burda Style has had something similar in their magazines recently. This pair has a narrower leg but might be modified, and it says they're from the January 2012 issue. Or this pair has wider legs which looks like it's from last October. (P.S. They want /how/ much for those pants? I could go to Kohl's and buy a pair of Dockers identical to those for a tenth the price. Maybe it's the janitor-uniform gray that's getting me.) -- Edited on 2/12/12 10:46 PM -- ------ I've moved! Visit my new sewing blog at http://chiralcraft.wordpress.com Do you sew from KnipMode? Join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/knipmode_english/
mastdenman   Intermediate CA USA Member since 2004 Posts: 5514	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/13/12 0:08 AM Vogue Alice and Olivia pants. Butterick has a trouser jeans pattern. These look like straight leg or stove pipe chinos with a wide waistband and a back tab pocket. ------ Marilyn January 2009 to January 2010 81 yards out and 71yards in January 2010 to the present 106.7 yards out and 146.5 yards in. January 2011 to the present: 47 yards out and 69 yards in.
asafina Intermediate Member since 2007 Posts: 25	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/13/12 5:44 AM Thanks for all the replies thus far. It seems that everyone found this pant basic and simple, and it is, yet none of the patterns suggested will replicate it, imo. It is straight-legged, but even the straightest pants' patterns are not straight from the hip down: the seams have a distinct curve to them, especially so the inside seam. I am trying to determine whether I can take a basic bootcut and remove the shaping through the thigh and knee, and get the desired result. Still, the upper and mid hip will have to have shaping, otherwise the pants will be too wide. The DVN pants are 28 cm at the hem, I'll hold on to this piece of information and try to remove enough shaping to get there. Re: the general fit of these pants -- they do fit the model through the waist well, though they are definitely not fitted elsewhere. It's the intentional slouch of these pants I am after. One more question: the waistband seems shaped to me -- is it?
nancy2001   Advanced AL USA Member since 2005 Posts: 5228	Login to reply to this post Like this post Date: 2/13/12 6:58 AM Since you have your heart set on those particular pants, I recommend that you start with the closest pattern (or patterns) you can find -- they need not be exact. Then sew a test pair in a cheap fabric and continue to tinker with the garment and sew successive test garments until you're satisfied that you've captured all the features of the original that you want your garment to have. That's the process I use, and it does take time -- a lot of time. But if you're determined, sooner or later you do come up with the garment you want. Pants like the ones you are trying to copy were in style in the 1970s, but back then they were always fitted through the crotch. You might want to search on ebay for a "vintage jeans pattern." As far as whether the waistband is shaped or not -- it might have a slight shape to it. If you are trying to capture that feature, then you can experiment with different degrees of curvature. -- Edited on 2/13/12 7:03 AM -- ------ The essence of life is statistical improbability on a colossal scale. Richard Dawkins
Michelle L   Intermediate MO USA Member since 2008 Posts: 1272	Login to reply to this post In reply to asafina Like this post Date: 2/13/12 7:15 AM Given the shape of those pants, I'd probably start with a man's pant pattern. That will probably get you closest to those legs, and that "slouch" style. ------ Michelle http://cheapandpicky.blogspot.com/

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