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Copying these pants
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Date: 2/12/12 9:13 PM

How do I get the shape of these pants?

I have nothing like this among my patterns (I sew almost exclusively from Burda magazines), so I will have to modify some other pattern, most likely of a bootcut pant. If anyone knows of how to do so, or point me to an existing pattern with this shape (or better yet, show pattern pieces), I would be grateful.


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Date: 2/12/12 9:15 PM

Can you provide us with a link or the URL?

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Date: 2/12/12 9:19 PM

I am trying to post a url.... I guess I am not understanding the instructions properly.

The unclickable url is:

http://www.yoox.com/item/YOOX/DRIES+VAN+NOTEN/dept/women/tskay/E65668BF/rr/1/cod10/36311752VW/sts/sr_women80
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Okay, I added a clickable link now in the original post.

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Date: 2/12/12 10:33 PM

Since there are always a ton of questions here on fitting pants, I find it interesting that these pants don't fit the model very well, front or back.

Sorry, I don't have an answer for you, but someone is bound to come along and be able to make a suggestion.

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Date: 2/12/12 10:38 PM

here's the pants

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Date: 2/12/12 10:41 PM

They look like a fairly straightforward fly-front wide leg trouser with a flat front and a separate waistband to me. Surely Burda Style has had something similar in their magazines recently. This pair has a narrower leg but might be modified, and it says they're from the January 2012 issue. Or this pair has wider legs which looks like it's from last October.

(P.S. They want /how/ much for those pants? I could go to Kohl's and buy a pair of Dockers identical to those for a tenth the price. Maybe it's the janitor-uniform gray that's getting me.)
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Date: 2/13/12 0:08 AM

Vogue Alice and Olivia pants.

Butterick has a trouser jeans pattern.

These look like straight leg or stove pipe chinos with a wide waistband and a back tab pocket.

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Date: 2/13/12 5:44 AM

Thanks for all the replies thus far.

It seems that everyone found this pant basic and simple, and it is, yet none of the patterns suggested will replicate it, imo. It is straight-legged, but even the straightest pants' patterns are not straight from the hip down: the seams have a distinct curve to them, especially so the inside seam. I am trying to determine whether I can take a basic bootcut and remove the shaping through the thigh and knee, and get the desired result. Still, the upper and mid hip will have to have shaping, otherwise the pants will be too wide. The DVN pants are 28 cm at the hem, I'll hold on to this piece of information and try to remove enough shaping to get there.

Re: the general fit of these pants -- they do fit the model through the waist well, though they are definitely not fitted elsewhere. It's the intentional slouch of these pants I am after.

One more question: the waistband seems shaped to me -- is it?

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Date: 2/13/12 6:58 AM

Since you have your heart set on those particular pants, I recommend that you start with the closest pattern (or patterns) you can find -- they need not be exact. Then sew a test pair in a cheap fabric and continue to tinker with the garment and sew successive test garments until you're satisfied that you've captured all the features of the original that you want your garment to have.

That's the process I use, and it does take time -- a lot of time. But if you're determined, sooner or later you do come up with the garment you want.

Pants like the ones you are trying to copy were in style in the 1970s, but back then they were always fitted through the crotch. You might want to search on ebay for a "vintage jeans pattern."

As far as whether the waistband is shaped or not -- it might have a slight shape to it. If you are trying to capture that feature, then you can experiment with different degrees of curvature.


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Date: 2/13/12 7:15 AM

Given the shape of those pants, I'd probably start with a man's pant pattern.

That will probably get you closest to those legs, and that "slouch" style.

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