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Nolakat22
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Date: 2/16/12 2:44 PM

Hi,

A dealer in my area carries baby locks. He quoted an Elizabeth at $669.00 and the Sofia 2 at $599.00. Both of them are outside of my price range, but I am confused as to why the Sofia is cheaper than the Elizabeth when it has just about all of the features of the Elizabeth AND it has embroidery.

The dealer said he wasn't sure why it was cheaper. Any thoughts? Thanks.

Also, the Elizabeth looked really nice. He didn't take the Sofia out of the box b/c I am not really looking for an emobroidery machine, but if it can sew like the Elizabeth, has embroidery, and is 70 bucks cheaper - maybe I should go look at it??

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Date: 2/16/12 3:43 PM

Hi, one of my friends got a Sofia 2 last year, and seems to love it. She took classes from the dealer, and has enjoyed sewing for her 3 grand daughters, as well as doing embroidery for several projects. I have not heard any complaints. I also liked the way it handled during a brief trial at her house. Hope you get a machine you love!

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Date: 2/16/12 4:04 PM

I don't know anything about the Elizabeth but I have the original Sofia and I love it. It has sewed everything I wanted. The buttonholes are the best of any machine I have ever owned. I also had a Quest Plus but I always used the Sofia. I sold the Quest because I never liked it and the feeling was mutual.
I have done a little embroidery and it was very easy to figure out. The stitching looked good to me but I am no expert. I did embroider names on towels for a bridal shower gift and they really looked very professional. The other guests were impressed with my ability. (I let them think it was hard! LOL).

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Date: 2/16/12 4:24 PM

The Sofia 2 is not a full-sized machine. It has a nice selection of decorative stitches and the ability to embroider 4x4 though you can get a larger hoop...just have to move it around when working.

The Elizabeth is a really nice machine, plus it has a knee lift for your presser foot for when you need those two hands to move fabric around.

Both are nice choices. Maybe you can test drive both?
Another option for less would be the Brother PC-420 which can be bought online or even the PC-210.
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Date: 2/17/12 9:54 AM

I guess the embroidery would be nice, but I don't want to compromise the sewing machine aspect. If Elizabeth is a superior sewing machine to the Sofia, I don't know if the extra embroidery and 70 dollar less purchase price makes it worth it?

Does the size of the sewing machine base make a big difference?

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Date: 2/17/12 10:45 AM

Do you mean a 3/4 sized machine vs a full sized machine? Do you mean the harp space from the needle to the right side, the open area? What are you going to sew?

As silly as it sounds, sometimes money is not the most important thing in a sewing machine. Oh yeah, I sure do know how much they cost! Do not get me wrong on this, as it took me a year to find the Right machine for me. And I spent a bundle on it, too. I bought a Bernina.

What brands/dealers do you have close to you? Babylock is good, Janome is good and if you want the best (and most expensive brand), shop Bernina. While Bernina will cost you double the price, the quality is far higher than any other brand---in my opinion, that is.

Others will argue for their favorite brand and I hope they do.

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Date: 2/17/12 10:49 AM

I got the Brother Innovis 900 that is a like a twin of the Sofia. Never had any problem, no jam, nothing. Good little sewer, very intuitive, makes sewing fun. If you are not interested with embroidery, look at the Brother pc420 as suggested above, you can then put a few more bucks to buy feet. This machine seems to be a favorite in its range.
Is there manual adjustable pressure foot pressure with these Babylock ? My 900 doesn't, the twin Babylocks (sofia&sofia2) have a few features that the equivalent Brothers have not, so check. You might find it useful for sewing some garments. I didn't think much of it until I saw the difference with a sewing machine that had it.
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Date: 2/18/12 2:10 PM

I dont think you could go wrong with either machine. I tried both a while ago, when looking for a travel take to class machine, and thought they were both nice machines, especially for the money. I favored the Elizabeth, because I think for general use it is larger, has knee lift, and thread cutters. Though I thought the Sofia 2 was smooth and compact and easy to move around. I dont personally dont need the embroidery but it may be fun for you to do some.
I would not let the difference in price be the deciding factor as it no sooo big, you will have the machine for a long time and over years that is a small difference IMHO.
You may want to consider the Bernina 215 or a used Bernina Activa. It is a basic simple machine, but well made as all berninas are and has the same stitch quality as the much more expensive models.
model 230 is super.
The 215 sells for 650 to 700 here in NY and the 230 would be around the same pre-owned. Also there is the Janome, (the pink one, I dont know what the number is just under the 3160 model that is very nice too. The 3160 compares to the Elizabeth, but the Elizabeth has the hands free system and to get to your stitch selection you put in the number for the stitch, where as the Janome you have to scroll and it takes more time, so I like the Elizabeth more for that reason and the added knee lift.
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Date: 5/21/12 7:38 PM

I went to my local Baby Lock dealer, which happens to also be my local quilt shop and I was deciding between the Melody (former Quilter's Choice) and Sofia 2. I had so much fun on the Sofia! The Sofia alerts you when you are just about to run out of bobbin thread. I found the stitch quality to be superior to that of the Melody. The people with the $10,000 machines, when looking for a second machine, one to bring to class, get a Sofia not a Melody. The embroidery stitching on the Sofia rivals that of the $10,000 machines, so it makes sense that the sewing stitch quality does, too. The shop workers actually steered me to the Sofia, the less expensive machine. And even after purchasing the extension table and anything else I need to make it a quilting machine like the Melody, it's still cheaper than the Melody. I love it and couldn't be more thrilled :)

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Date: 10/12/12 11:08 AM

I ended up getting the Elizabeth - so far I am super happy with it!! Thanks for the responses

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