SIGNUP - FREE Membership and 1 FREE Sewing Lesson
| FAQ | Login
 

Forum > Fitting Woes > Bust Circle ( Moderated by Deepika, Jacqui315)

Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview
Go to Page:
Bust Circle
How big is it?
KathleenNW

KathleenNW
Washington USA
Member since 5/20/06
Posts: 107
Skill: Intermediate
Send Message

      



Date: 6/18/12 1:14 PM

I hear a lot about the "bust circle", but I don't think I've ever heard how big it should be. Does it matter what the dart intake is (the cup size)?

Like ?
A = 2"
B = 2 1/2"
C = 3"
etc., etc....

Thank you
novicesewist
star
novicesewist
California USA
Member since 2/11/08
Posts: 103
Skill: Beginner
Send Message

      



Date: 6/18/12 1:18 PM

Let me preface by saying that I'm not an expert. I just happened to be watching Peggy Sagers drafting video last night, and I think I remember her saying that the bust circle in smaller sizes (under 14) was a radius of 1.5 inches. Then in the larger sizes the diameter was 2.5 inches, up to a certain size, then it went up an inch per size (unfortunately, I do not remember at what size the 2.5 inch radius changed to another inch per size) So, radius of 1.5 inches equals circle of 3 inches across, and 2.5 inch radius would equal circle 5 inches across.
Hopefully that will give you a place to start.
Judy
KathleenNW

KathleenNW
Washington USA
Member since 5/20/06
Posts: 107
Skill: Intermediate
Send Message

                                                     1 Replies
thumbsup 1 member likes this.



Date: 6/18/12 1:34 PM

Thank you for the reference. I have her DVD, so I just watched a part of it that talks about the bust circle.

8 - 12 1 1/2" radius
14 - 18 2 1/2" radius
18 = 2-1/2" + 1"
20 -> 2-1/2" + 2", and so on.

It seems strange to me that it isn't also based on dart size. BUT, maybe the size of the dart determines how far into the bust circle the dart goes.

Can anyone explain this further?

Thank you
-- Edited on 6/18/12 1:36 PM --
wendyrb
wendyrb  Friend of PR
California USA
Member since 12/30/11
Posts: 4118
Skill: Advanced
Body Type:
Send Message

      



Date: 6/18/12 1:55 PM

Kathleen, these are very useful guidelines. Thanks for sharing.

I recently took Sarah Veblen's class here- Fun with Fitting Darts. Her new book The Complete Photo Guide to Perfect Fitting shows an approach I see others post about here. The pattern dart is a starting point. Trace off a muslin of it and mark the seam lines to make a pin basted muslin, especially the dart. When fitting it, you can release the dart easily to custom fit it to your particular shape. We all have fullness and indents that are uniquely our own. Most of us benefit from re-draping the dart on our bodies. Shift the dart angle/placement, depth of fold and length to a bust circle until it is right for you. You can also slash open the muslin to either remove fullness for a small bust, or add space for a fuller bust.

Unless you are just like the pattern, it's worthwhile to become familar with fitting yourself. Or, find a fitting buddy better still! HTH.

------
Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them. Andy Rooney

Pfonzie- my honey Pfaff Creative Performance and Pfaff Passport, Bernina 930 and 830, Evolution and Enlighten sergers

Miss Fairchild
starstarstarstar
Miss Fairchild
USA
Member since 8/24/02
Posts: 7936
Skill: Advanced
Send Message

      



In reply to KathleenNW

Date: 6/19/12 1:44 AM

In reading the numbers, I'd guess it was due to the size of dart or cup size. But other designers use a different size bust circle. For example, I believe Glenda Sparling uses a 1" bust circle, no matter your size. Peggy's reference of 3" was very strange to me, but it does make sense when you think of it visually.

------
"Play the cards you are dealt, but choose who is sitting at the table"..AARP magazine

SEE MY ETSY SHOP HERE: http://www.etsy.com/shop/AuntMaymesAttic
My blog: http://auntmaymesattic.wordpress.com/

KathleenNW

KathleenNW
Washington USA
Member since 5/20/06
Posts: 107
Skill: Intermediate
Send Message

                                                     1 Replies



Date: 6/19/12 9:22 AM

One thing is becoming very clear. There are as many 'rules' and 'standards' as there are pattern designers.

It was a lot easier in Home Ec (1965 - 1969when you only learned one method, however, it's a lot more interesting now with the internet, but a lot more confusing.

This is such a great website. Lots of interesting converdations.
hazelnut
star
hazelnut  Friend of PR
USA
Member since 1/7/09
Posts: 2310
Skill: Beginner
Send Message

                                                     1 Replies



In reply to KathleenNW
thumbsup 1 member likes this.


Date: 6/19/12 2:15 PM

I've never heard of a "bust circle". Could someone please explain exactly what it is and how it's used, and for what purpose? Thanks
lca
star
lca  Friend of PR
Member since 6/4/07
Posts: 731
Skill: Intermediate
Send Message

      



Date: 6/19/12 3:36 PM

Imagine a circle around the bust appex. The size of the circle is dependent upon the above criteria. The end of a dart should come somewhere within this circle. HTH.
GlButterfly

GlButterfly
California USA
Member since 8/28/08
Posts: 4006
Skill: Intermediate
Send Message

      



In reply to hazelnut
thumbsup 1 member likes this.


Date: 6/19/12 5:19 PM

The larger the bust, the farther away the point of the dart needs to be. Some say as short as 1/2" for the smallest cup sizes. Because it's quicker to type, let's use 1" as an example (which might be a B cup). A dart can begin from almost any edge. We would still need to end it with our 1" (in this example.) If you were to make dots around the apex of the bust, each 1" away (the radius) and connect them, you would have a circle! That's where the circle comes from.

There are factors which may change the radius; this is a guide.

------
"TOL machines = Too (much) Operator Learning"--poorpigling, January, 2016

hazelnut
star
hazelnut  Friend of PR
USA
Member since 1/7/09
Posts: 2310
Skill: Beginner
Send Message

      



Date: 6/19/12 7:42 PM

Ica and GL, thank you for the explanation - this is the first time I've read this term. This will be another helpful guide in determining where to end a bust dart, particularly when drafting them from scratch during a FBA.
Go to Page:
Please LOGIN or Join PatternReview

printable version Printable Version

* Advertising and soliciting is strictly prohibited on PatternReview.com. If you find a post which is not in agreement with our Terms and Conditions, please click on the Report Post button to report it. Fitting Woes >> Bust Circle

Merchants on PR

Just Make it Sew


Quality Fashion Fabrics
Deals!

Home Sewing Depot


Home Dec Sewing Supplies
Deals!

Patterns from the Past


vintage sewing patterns
Deals!

Nature's Fabrics


Natural & Organic Fabrics
Deals!

Elliott Berman Textiles


Fabrics for Greater Ideas
Deals!

 
adv. search»
pattern | machine | member
        
Online Class
The Contemporary Couture Jacket
The Contemporary Couture Jacket

Class Details

Online Class
Beginners Guide to Sewing Jackets
Beginners Guide to Sewing Jackets

Class Details

Simplicity 1464

photo
by: Laurasuper...

Review
Master Pattern Book Fractured Hearts

photo
by: jannw

Review
Lolita Patterns Sugar Plum Pattern

Lolita Patterns Sugar Plum Pattern

Pattern Details
Paradiso Designs Carry-All Shoulder Bag Pattern

Paradiso Designs Carry-All Shoulder Bag Pattern

Pattern Details

Conditions of Use | Posting Guidelines | Privacy Policy | Shipping Rates | Returns & Refunds | Contact Us | About | New To PR | Advertising

Copyright © 2016 PatternReview.com® , OSATech, Inc. All rights reserved.