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Date: 6/23/12 9:13 PM

How can I combine designs so that they stitch out even? Lets say I want to embroider a cupcake on my dd t-shirt then right under that add her name. Is there a program that I need to do this so that it comes out even. I have a brother pe770. As far as I know it does not let me combine designs. I also have Stitch Era Universal.
At the moment I am not able to buy a program such as Embird. I plan to get it asap, but in the mean time is there another way I can do this?

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Date: 6/24/12 4:33 PM

I once downloaded a 30 day trial of a program to do something my own software wouldn't do. The bonus was I got to try it out and decide if it was worthy of my wishlist.

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Date: 6/24/12 8:46 PM

I just tried it, in your Stitch Era Universal and it worked for me. As to just merge two already existing embroidery files together and save out as a combined computer file with a totally different and new file name.

It really was not easy for me at all, (not knowing how to use the program and not having spent days and months in there at all first even trying to learn it) as just because even though the program says it's supposed to be able to merge two stock designs together, I really could not find any kind of icon, or dialog box or instructions saying anything for that in the interface there.

Maybe if someone else knows where that would be, they might post?

So what I did instead, was have to look at the .pdf file there on the owners instructions. After just glancing through all 251 pages of that, just on line, very quick, still could not see any "merge" icon or instructions for that in there either. Did see cut and paste though. If you look at your instruction book on line as a .pdf file, you do not even have search capability on it. And no index in the back of the instructions either, but you do have table of contents. Merge stock designs does not seem to be actually listed there. In order to get search capabilities on that .pdf file, I had to save it to my own computer and hard drive first, and even do search on it that instead.

Even like that, and even though the generic term merge was used in it a lot, nothing comes up under any search terms for merge, or just me looking at it there, for just merging two stock designs together. So I really could not even find it there, in the instructions either. But I could have just missed it.

So if you want to learn that program, I think you are going to have to physical print out and stick in a binder all 251 pages of the instructions, and make notes on them, and refer back to that binder often. Or at least I would have to.

I gave up on that, ( as did not wish to use up all my printer ink today and was not even about to attempt to learn a big huge new digitizing program today) and decided to just go with gut instinct, and do cut and paste instead, (as could guess and see at least one way on how to do that there) and did get that to work for me.

What I did to make that happen, is to do a file/new, bring in and up on screen an existing embroidery design, open another window with in that program the same way, bring in another embroidery design, select all blocks on that one, do a copy, go back to the first one, and just paste it in. Of course you would then want to move it to where you wanted it, and maybe put a stop code in to, to make the sewing machine stop sewing, so you could change thread colors in between the two embroidery designs you now have combined together up on screen there. A whole bunch of other stuff to then learn how to do in that program. I did save that out as a new embroidery file with a new file name, and since I was still under the allowed 40,000 stitches free stitch limit, it did let me do that.

I did not bother to even try to sew out my test like that, but I did check the merged together design, into just one design that way, that I had created that way, and saved out as a computer file in some other software, and it looked O.K. to me, and it would have sewed out for me on some or probably any machine.

Probably not the best or quickest way to even do that, in that software at all, but the best and quickest way I could find to do it, with no real knowledge of the program, and with only playing around with it for 1/2 hour there or so. And it not being any of the software that I actually know how to use instead.

So it would not be impossible for you to do that in there at all. But you got to probably spend a whole lot of time, learning how to use the program first. And of course no matter how many embroidery designs you wanted to combine together into the same file, I don't think it would even ever work, if your stitch count exceeded 40,000 stitches total at all.

I think much quicker for just what you want to do, probably would be to sew out samples of your two embroidery designs, mark cross hair grid marks on your hoop, and sample design sew outs, then place the samples on your real fabric and pin them there, then just transfer the cross hairs to your real fabric, and try to hoop up twice but as accurate as you can, and using your cross hair system like that of your own doing even, that is free for anyone on any machine to do that maybe.

If anyone knows a quicker or more easy way to merge together 2 existing embroidery designs in that program, (like a combine or merge icon or dialog box in there anyplace) if you post it, I will try it.

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Date: 6/25/12 0:49 AM

I have a Brother 1250D which is a combo machine, but the embroidery function is very similar to your machine.

I don't own extra software.

What I have done is to first stitch out my design. I keep it centered in my hoop, so I don't have to worry if the name or whatever I am adding next will be centered.

After the design is done, I then program in the name. In the layout function I keep the name centered, but move it upward in the hoop. Using the function that traces out where the design is going to stitch I check to see if it is in a good spot.

It helps to hoop in the larger re-positionable hoop (12 x 5), so that you can move the hoop if needed.

It takes a bit of time to do this, but I don't have software and really don't want to spend money on it for now anyway. I've done some really cute pillow with a design in the center and a name above it.





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Date: 6/25/12 9:59 AM

Thank you guys for trying to help me out.


I actually got it.

If you have SE(which is free). Go to the design you want to embroider and open it with SE, then click on the embroidery tab at the top, click on lettering and type in the words you want to use, then click enter. Your text will now be placed by your design, move it to where ever you want your text to be.
If you want your text smaller just minimize the box your text is in.
You also have the option of choosing different text.
Save your new file and send it to your machine.
The only thing is that it saves it as a dst file.

Does anyone here use wilcom? Is it easy to use to change formats?

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Date: 6/25/12 12:50 PM

Speattle which function is it that traces where the design is going to be?

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Date: 6/25/12 1:31 PM

You can save embroidery design out of the Stitch Era Universal in any format that you want. You don't have to send the design through another program to do that at all.

Probably best to save in the native condensed object based and editable format of that particular program first though, in case you ever want to do further editing on it later. That would be the .dsg file format there. To do that, do a file/save file/save as, and use the pop up dialog box to name and save your file as the only choice there, which is .dsg. that will not sew out on any sewing machines, but will bring up you embroidery file back into that program as a native condensed editable file for you later, if you ever need it that way.

Then to save out your embroidery file you made from there, in a actual expanded stitich format kind of file that can sew out on a embroidery machine, instead do a file/save file/export as embroidery machine format, instead. Now use that export pop up dialog box to save the file, as a stitch based expanded kind of embroidery file that can actually be fed to an embroidery machine. .dst is one of the many choices there, but not the only at all. Since you have a Brother machine, I'm guessing you probably want to sacve your file out for that machine as the Brother PES (PES files) format there. to do that, in that same pop up export dialog box, at the bottom of it there is a field named "files of type" with a downwards arrow, to go through the file extension choices. If you want .pes, that would be the second choice down from the top. That way, you get an actual expanded stitch file that you can actually feed to an embroidery machine.

I have used some Wilcom software. I do find it easy to convert one embroidery file format to another in. But, it's not free embroidery software at all, instead it's more a full manual digitizing program instead. If you are talking about free Wilcom software instead, then i think you are talking about that little free Wilcom true sizer program most likely. You could use that to convert some embroidery files to a different fomat. But it's not really a digitizing or editing program at all.just more a cataloging, viewing, and conversion program instead. That one will not allow you to actually create any stitches, any embroidery designs, or even make any keyboard lettering at all. Also not really any real editing of any stitches or stitch blocks in an embroidery design either.

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Date: 6/27/12 7:47 PM

Well on my machine on the "Layout" screen is a little box square icon you can touch (near the left of the screen). It makes the hoop scoot around and trace the perimeter of the area the design will cover.

I thought your machine had that, but I may be wrong.

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Date: 6/27/12 7:49 PM

I just looked at the Brother website and on the info about the PE 770 under specifications it does say that this model has "trial layout/position function". Check the manual for it.

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Date: 7/2/12 5:51 PM

thanks everyone, I've been so busy haven't had time to embroider. Speattle I will check that out.

Thanks again.

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