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Lyddy
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Date: 7/15/12 10:27 AM

Hi,
I am new to garment sewing and have heard great things about using a sloper. How do I pick a sloper pattern?

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Date: 7/15/12 7:00 PM

Sloper is just a basic pattern shape, which you can then use to create any design you wish. They come in standard sizes.

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Date: 7/15/12 7:23 PM

Since Lyddy started a nice thread about slopers, I will add my questions.
How many of us really use a sloper?
Do you use the sloper to draft you own designs?
Do you use the sloper when using patterns from other companies?
Is it really helpful?

I just created a sloper using My Pattern Designer and have not used it yet, but plan on giving it a try for the next blouse I make.

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Date: 7/15/12 7:28 PM

See here for more basic info on slopers:Threads Magazine: Slopers

I don't use one, but I'm starting to get mightily tempted, as I get back into sewing and I no longer fit the "standard" sizes.
-- Edited on 7/15/12 7:29 PM --

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Date: 7/15/12 9:44 PM

I have a bodice slopes and am working on my pants sloper. I haven't use these yet but I did use an old one a few years ago to adjust vintage patterns. If you don't fit out of the envelope, these are valuable tools. I haven't used them yet with the purpose of creating new patterns but I will.

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Date: 7/16/12 2:23 PM

Is it wise to have a sloper( basic pattern) for each pattern company?

I have bernina My label software, and could create a sloper from that, but would that help my vogue/kwiksew/burda patterns, or should I create a sloper pattern say from Vogue for Vogue etc- I know vogue do one, I think Burda used to do one- why don,t they do one any more?

Or do I use the sloper I can create from the software and layer it on to my commercial patterns?

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Date: 7/16/12 3:58 PM

The real questions are:

Do the pattern companies use their slopers/blocks to design their clothes. e.g. slashing and spreading?

Are the blocks used by the various pattern companies different? Does Burda, for instance, use German patternmaking methods?

If the pattern companies stick to using the blocks they publish as "slopers", then, yes, the sloper might be useful for reverse engineering a particularly troublesome fit.

(The published slopers tend not to be multisized-- so figuring out the size that requires the least fitting may prove to be more expensive than planned.)




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Date: 7/16/12 5:35 PM

Quote:
How many of us really use a sloper?
Do you use the sloper to draft you own designs?
Do you use the sloper when using patterns from other companies?
Is it really helpful?


I do.
Yes, I use it mostly to draft my own designs.
I use the sloper when using patterns from other companies to give me an idea of how the pattern is drafted and if I want to fiddle with it.
Yes

And I've been using my sloper for many years. I made it from Sure Fit Design's (original) Dress kit which I purchased in the 1990's.

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Is it wise to have a sloper( basic pattern) for each pattern company?

For me, it's not because my Dress kit has some great design ideas which I use. Some pattern companies, especially the independents, don't provide basic patterns and independent patterns are mostly what I buy. I would think having a sloper for each pattern company would be so incredibly time consuming. You can see how a pattern is drafted by any company, just by placing your sloper over the pattern.
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Date: 7/16/12 6:39 PM

I use slopers all the time.. And Burda is using a Muller and Sohn pattern drafting method. I use some of Muller's principals in my work too

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Date: 7/16/12 10:29 PM

Apparently, the most inexpensive way to learn the Müller und Sohn method is probably Lucia Mors de Castro's book Patternmaking in Fashion. I have the this book-- some passing familiarity with French or German is occasionally helpful to catch the errant typo. It uses centimeters, and you'll need a protractor.

One thing that annoys me is that very few books, cover small and full bust adjustments, and Patternmaking in Fashion is no exception. (I think the most galling example of this sort of thing is a certain book on bra drafting, which is rumored to be inapplicable to any size other than a 34b.)

Kenneth King's "The Moulage" gives the correct formulae, which can also be found at Pattern School.

-- Edited on 7/16/12 10:32 PM --

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