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Date: 8/19/12 5:35 PM

This machine is for sale locally on craigslist, it is supposedly a one owner model, she has bought a TOL Diamond so is trying to sell this for 500 dollars. it comes with Embroidery arm, Reader/Writer Unit,
Reader/Writer software, D cards (no idea how many), Dongle, VIP software, Mega hoop. She is keeping the other hoops that came with this machine to use on her new machine which makes me think I should get an even better deal? I am wondering if I should hold out for a Designer LE when I have some more money? I don't like the fact it does not use USB to transfer designs. I have never used any embroidery machine before and this is about all I can afford at the moment. I am going to see it tomorrow but she cannot show me the embroidery as she has already removed the software from her computer. Would you buy this and is this a good deal? If I have put this post in the wrong spot apologies, and please move it if you wish. Thanks very much!
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Date: 8/19/12 5:59 PM

The best price I saw this for on ebay with all of that included was about $1000. Can she show a stitched out embroidery? Is she providing a write-able D card? A blank card usually is about 100 on its own. The reader/writer box tends to run around 300, with a blank card.

As far as a mego hoop goes, it gives you a lot of flexibility for sizes, and to buy it on its own (it is the most expensive hoop) can run about 100 itself.

Good luck with the test run!

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Date: 8/19/12 6:35 PM

That's good to know about the hoop, I am sure I will not want to use anything smaller when I start playing with it. I don't know what she has for D cards I will have to wait and see. I am thinking about taking my Windoze XP laptop with me and if I cannot load the software and try it myself then its a no deal. I can always unload the software if I do not buy it. Do you think that is a reasonable request? If I ask to see stitch outs how do I know which machine she did it on? (remember I am a noob when it comes to Viking emb machines).
I really appreciate your comments/help, thanks!

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Date: 8/19/12 7:50 PM

The VIP software's more than 7 years old and a lot of them used a serial port type of dongle. These don't play nice with external adapters and newer operating systems will not be supported. Depending on the version they also include a software licensing sheet and you can't install software without it. Make sure 1 of those cards are a blank that can be programed. I've purchased a couple of used embroidery machine and always sew tested with a small built in design and also test the sewing.

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Date: 8/19/12 8:00 PM

That's good advice too, she said it was an adapter that attaches to your pc with a usb port. It is only for XP though which I still use so that is ok. I spoke with her again and there is a writable D card included and she said it was fine if I install the software on my laptop and try it all out. If there is no license or the dongle doesn't work then I will not be able to install or test it so again, no deal in my opinion. Thank goodness she is retired and has time for me to do all this before buying! Otherwise I think I would definitely pass. I will test the machine itself as well, I am going to try some buttonholes and stitches too. Thanks for the help, I will let you know how it goes after my demo.

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Date: 8/21/12 10:53 AM

I have that machine, and also a D1. It does beautful embroidery, identical to the D1 and uses all the same hoops.
I believe the machine came with 1 or 2 smaller hoops, hard to believe they aren't included in sale. The embroidery process is a little cumbersome, because of the cards, I use Viking 3D software. You have to use some type of Viking software to write to the card. For writing only and not combining you can use the 3D or 4D Organizer. It's often on Ebay for under a $100.00. It's a wonderful machine to sew on, as all the platiunum series are. Truthfully I prefer my D1 to embroidery on, even though it has a floppy, the whole process is easier to transfer.

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Date: 8/21/12 1:32 PM

I am back from my demo (and late late night tinkering session lol). So yes I bought the machine. Did I get a good deal? Who knows. For me, I knew going in that I was willing to spend a LOT on good quality supplies. So I had to budget on a machine. It performed flawlessly for what I want it to do for now. I am sure I will want to upgrade later but again, budget being what it is, I decided it was something I wanted to own. I don't actually know what hoops she got with the machine but she did cave and give me one 8x8 hoop as well as the mega hoop in the deal. I know she kept at least one other smaller one that came with the Plus because she let it slip that it came with two and she bought the mega separately. She had a large drawer FULL of hoops! She gave me all the software that came with the machine including the d card software, digitizer, organizer, etc. The software is old but I have a plan. (see discussion at end of post). The transfer process was ok, not what I would prefer but it works. How long do those writable D cards last? Do they wear out over time? At this moment I am not sure of the technology behind the cards as opposed to magnetic media like a floppy or digital like a usb. She showed me three or four finished stitchouts but frankly I don't think she was telling the entire truth about which machine she did them on. She had her new machine right there beside the Plus.
As a sewing machine it is light years beyond my current stable of machines so that was a deciding factor as well. Not many feet were included though but I do have other feet already that will fit it so I will make do with what I have for now. There was the buttonhole sensor foot included which I really wanted, I don't know if this came with the machine or she bought it after but I am sure it is not cheap. It sews the buttonholes with the bead in a forward zigzag on both sides. That is what I was looking for. The tests were not perfect but close enough without spending another hour in her house tinkering.
The decorative stitches are fantastic! I already have plans for more projects using those than I will have time to do them! Now I need thread and will have to experiment with small orders of different kinds to see what it likes and doesn't like. I can't seem to determine what kind of prefilled bobbins this machine takes, none of the manuals tells me. Also, she used madeira thread only which is pricey (but very nice). What kind of thread do you use in your Plus? I have not even scratched the surface of trying the machine out but I am excited about making some neat gifts soon. I would have been happier getting it for a bit less than I paid but she had her husband right there making me more than a little nervous the whole time so I was not going to try to bargain. Of course the house was worth over 500K but we will not go there ;).
As an aside, once I get the hang of this embroidery stuff and look over the software offerings I may decide to write my own software. I would be interested in hearing all of your input of wishlist items for embroidery software. I especially want to know what you want in a user interface. Embird is like using AutoCad when you just need a ruler and a pencil IMHO.

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Date: 8/21/12 10:03 PM

I use all brands of thread, the machine isn't touchy at all. Madeira, Sulky, Gutterman, RA, and Floriani are ones I've tried. The sensor foot was original equipment and you can also make manual buttonholes. That comes in handy if you're making buttonholes on something that's a little lumpy. The sensor foot likes things smooth.
There's a nice after market dvd for your machine at sew much 4 retirement the woman was a Viking Educator

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Date: 8/21/12 10:09 PM

Ok great, thanks alot for for the info. Can you tell me which prewound bobbins you use (if any)? Thank you to everyone for all of your input.

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Date: 8/22/12 11:22 AM

Have never used a prewound bobbin in the 12 years I've been embroidering. I ususally buy sulky bobbin thread when it's on sale at Joanns. I sometimes use maxi-lock serger thread in the bobbin when I need the underside to match or blend.

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