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Date: 8/28/12 10:26 AM

I volunteer at my local animal shelter and have since before the new facility was opened. I have done research, community involvement and heavy lifting/cleaning for this wonderful organization. Recently we had a meeting of potential volunteers and I attended, since it was the first official meeting.

We were asked for our SS# in order to do a background check.

I asked if we could avoid giving that information and do the background check in a different manner--->nope, they had contracted with an outside company to do the checks and so the SS# was needed.

I understand the concern, but I will not be handling money and really don't want my number out there. I also don't feel they need a credit check on me but only a criminal history. I have my fingerprints on file since I was a teacher, and they could use that.

This bothers me, and I really don't want to quit volunteering. But I don't want to give out my SS#.

Any thoughts?

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Date: 8/28/12 10:47 AM

In Canada so things are probably different.

I have volunteered and worked for a number of agencies that required a criminal record check. Used to be $35.00 at the local RCMP detachment, free for some volunteer positions.

I have heard of some employers doing credit checks on new hires, but not personally experienced that. That happens more in retail environments.

I would wonder ask to see the policy that requires this an perhaps question those who came up with the policy. Explain to them your concerns and that you will unfortunately be unable to continue to help if a credit check is required.

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Date: 8/28/12 11:57 AM

They have no business doing a credit check on you. They aren't even paying you. But even for a regular paying job a credit check is too far. It's not business of future employers what your credit is like. But in this world of waiting 2 years to get a job the employer has all the power. Unless you are very good at what you do. You can't treat people volunteering like they are in prison or something or you won't have any volunteers. I could see for a job working around children etc.
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Date: 8/28/12 12:07 PM

Try to adopt one of those animals and see the third degree you have to go through!

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Date: 8/28/12 12:14 PM

I can think of a few reasons...

One is that they want to be consistent for all the volunteers, so that even though you are not dealing with the public on a regular basis, you probably will come in contact with them, and other volunteers for sure are in contact. So you could rationalize it because you would come in contact with children, maybe.

Another thing would be to screen out people with animal cruelty charges against them, or animal hoarding, or anything kind of arrest history that would leave the organization vulnerable to lawsuit.

For many of my jobs, I've been fingerprinted and had a battery of psychological tests. I never really thought twice about it, since I was working with kids in a pretty tough treatment/correctional place.

I'll bet money thought, that it's to protect the animals or the organization. It may even be a requirement from an insurance company.

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Date: 8/28/12 12:33 PM

My old place of employment does credit checks as well as background checks. I'm retired now, but if I were looking for a job in this economy, I wouldn't like all of that, but I would endure it for the right job. And really when you think about it, it is for your safety as well. I know none of us want to work with someone with anger issues or even worse.

If you look up yourself on the internet, you will find an alarming amount of information about yourself. The average person really doesn't grasp what a good searcher can find out about you.

My friend's daughter was applying to Med school and my friend was looking for information about the mcat exam and was able to actually find a number of applications for med school online because some colleges failed to lock the application, a PDF, for public viewing. So with the right search techniques, there is a lot of information out there. My friend, being the nice person she is, called every one of these people and alerted them. To say they were angry is an understatement.

I love the internet, but I know it is a worry because our laws have in no way kept up with technology. And so few of the people making these laws know enough to know there is a need for better controls.

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Date: 8/28/12 12:33 PM

I don't like it. But the only thing I can think of is to give them your SS# and change one number with the idea that they may not get around to using it anyway, or it may take them awhile to do it and by that time it may not matter, and you can say "Ooopsy" or something like that.

However, I do realize that this solution smacks of deception, and I worry that God doesn't want us to do that, but I sure would like Him to send one of us down a SPECIFIC acceptable alternative for this PARTICULAR case.

So if it were me, I'd point out to God that this was a fuzzy one for me, but I would very much like to volunteer, and I believe I can do some good, but this is an unreasonable request, and I don't want my identity stolen, so maybe I'm going to go ahead and give them my SS# with a few numbers changed, anyhow.

And now you know why I must repent every morning at 7AM. The simpler, moral answer would be, "If I have to lie, I don't want to be there."

My mind just never goes directly to simple.

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Date: 8/28/12 1:04 PM

Nope. Volunteer work is just that. No way I would give my number out to them at all. No hassle - and if they persist, find another outlet for your time.

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Date: 8/28/12 1:05 PM

Hey, Mufff: do you, me and Wolfie come off like Suspicious East Coasters?

Or whut.

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Date: 8/28/12 1:24 PM

If you were a paid employee, (no matter how little hours a week or a paid consultant, even if they just put you on payroll and paid you a nominal amount -or a fee, maybe one that would just buy you lunch even, or even as an consultant) and they needed to cut you a check, I think they would legally need that. It also would not be so horribly offensive to you and so out of line at all. It just would be the way things worked instead. Looked at that way, maybe you could get past it, or not. If so, you could suggest that, and see what happens. Then the ball is back in their court. Whom knows, you might even get paid, and at that point might be able overlook that transgression :)

If not, you could always give them your #, but transpose around a few of the last digits. Chances are they are not really going to be able to do anything with it anyways, or even be willing to pay for a real background check and it is just someone's silly policy and will just sit in a computer or a form someplace in their office. Flip side of that though, is yes they may also have it in some other volunteer lap top too, that gets stolen when they are at Starbucks having coffee or such. In that case, probably a good thing, if they don't have your real # at all!

If you give them a transposed SS# just to start with, if some ever some issue with that later and they come back to you about it, and there never maybe be, it would not be that unusual, to just have even by accident got two numbers mixed up. If so, you could always correct them then, if you felt like it. Or not!

It would of course be better to explain to them why you do not wish to give out that #, and why you should not have to do that, and why just volunteering in a Animal Shelter is nothing like and not akin at all to having all your finger prints and even side hand print done as a teacher instead, but they probably won't listen.

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