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Date: 8/28/12 9:26 PM

Has anyone used both a Baby Lock and a Janome coverstitch machine? I'm in the market for one and need advice. I already have a serger which I love, so I only need a machine that does a coverstitch. I am 75-100 miles away from either dealer (in different directions, of course-LOL), so I can't "test drive" them the same day. I've read good reviews on here about both machines. Any help will be appreciated!

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Date: 8/28/12 9:46 PM

Janome all the way!!!!!!!!!!!! I never used a babylock coverstitch.
I know others here have one they could give you some input.

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Date: 8/28/12 9:58 PM

I have used both. I originally wanted a Babylock but long storey short ended up buying a Janome 1000CPX. It is a good entry level machine, a very nice machine for the price. I decided after owning it for a year that I still wanted the Babylock. I'm so very happy with my choice. I really like the Babylock much better. I had a few problems with skipped stitches with the Janome. I took it in for service and the problem was fixed but I wasn't very happy that there was a problem with it, as I had used it very little. I've used the Babylock more already in the month or so that I've had it and it works perfectly. It's very user friendly, solid, smooth and has very good stitch quality. The manual is also very comprehensive. There are attachments available on Ebay for a fraction of the price of what you can buy them for at the dealer.

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Date: 8/28/12 10:36 PM

How well does the Babylock sew over side seams as compared to your 1000CPX? Does the Babylock have a compensating foot to allow for going over thick side seams? I have the 1000CP and just love it. I haven't tried the Babylock so I'm curious about your comparison of the two.

Skipped stitches can happen for various reasons, but for me it's usually operator error. I very seldom have this problem.

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Date: 8/28/12 11:11 PM

I don't know if there is a compensating foot but in my experience it sews much better over thick seams. It doesn't make tiny stitches over seams like the Janome did. I do use a technique of clipping into the seam to reduce bulk though, for either machine. I realize that op error can cause skipped stitches, it often is a needle issue, however in this case there was an actual mechanical problem that was repaired by a service technician. I took it in after trying all the usual fixes for the problem. I know many people love the machine, I liked it but didn't love it. I do love the Babylock. Just my personal preference.

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Date: 8/29/12 0:03 AM

I used to own the 1000CPX from Janome and had a lot of skipped stitches even after having the machine checked, even when seams were flipped, pressed, fused in place and clapped using steam and pressure to flatten, and absolutely not tugged through the machine at all- and with correct needles. It really wasn't able to handle fleece well at all and even on T shirts could act up. When I moved and it was damged by removalists it was repaired and serviced and then I rehomed it.
Because having a pile of garments to finish, whilst waiting on repairs, I bought a Bernina 009DCC and it has the compensating foot. It is absolutely fabulous the way it feeds fabric without anything ever getting caught under the foot that could often happen to the Janome. I am sure there is more clearance under the foot in addition to having a compensating foot.
I made seams and hems from remants I found on unpacking of the same fabrics that had given me the most grief with the Coverpro 1000CPX, mocking up the same seams and layers in garments that I had trouble with, and ran them through the 009DCC and expected that since it was so thick and the Janome had proven incapable of coverstitching those fabrics properly, it would be a nightmare. Not a single skipped stitch! I nearly fell off my chair.

I have so far had not a single incidence of skipping nor of getting caught on seam intersections that I experienced with the Janome on a huge variety of fabrics from slippery lycra content to thick fleece to experimenting on denim and other fabrics since switching machines.

If the Babylock is way too expensive for you or you don't want a huge machine ( I had a hard time wrapping my brain around the price and space is a premium for me) I would take a serious look at the Bernina 009DCC. It may be older and the threading of the lower looper is not as minimalist in number of thread guides required to thread, but it is not difficult, and most importantly with what I have thrown at it, it works wonderfully. And I think that is why Bernina haven't launched an updated version to look more modern, because why fix what isn't broken?

I know you will get a huge number or PR advocates for the Janome coverpro but its clear when you read online there are machines that aren't performing well even when others may, by people who persist and do things right to attempt to get their particular machine to behave. I think you will always have a few of any sort of brand that may need tweaks or adjustments from the factory to work well but the telling thing is, when this has happened and they are still getting caught up on seam intersections or skipping a bunch of stitches, there is a good chance that there are differences in designs between different brands, and what suits one person may not suit you. Try them all out on a variety of fabrics and layers and see what you think. Do sew a seam first and hem as you would for a garment.

Oh and one thing more, I just want to add now when I do hems on my garments I don't have to fuse and use a steam and clapper to flatten any sort of bump, my machine just sews up and over it perfectly without missing a stitch. Prep time is seriously reduced, I just turn up the hem and sew!

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Date: 8/29/12 0:10 AM

Yes, when I sew over the side seams, I use the clipping technique you describe. You're right about those tiny stitches though.

What do the Babylocks sell for? I've never priced them so I'm just curious. I definitely get a lot of use out of my CS machine so I wouldn't be adverse to trading up if it meant improvements in certain areas.

Have you ever tried reverse coverstitching on activewear? I've done it on a polarfleece blanket, but that is it so far. I'm interested in being able to construct my activewear the way they do for RTW.

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Date: 8/29/12 0:16 AM

Thanks so much for the insight on the Bernina 009DCC. That compensating foot sounds like what I'm looking for. The tiny stitches don't bother me a lot, but if I buy another CS machine, that will be one I try out.

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Date: 8/29/12 0:43 AM

I paid $1299. for mine. I haven't done any reverse coverstitching, I've been doing a lot of knit tops lately out of rayon and silk jersey, matte jersey and cotton. I use the two thread narrow for a dressier look on those.

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Date: 8/29/12 1:29 PM

I hade a CP 1000 and it went back, and was replaced 2 X's, but the price was a consideration and so I went to the CP 900 and love it ...for all the dance costumes I do, and have no other uses for it at this time, but it does do cotton gaberdine very well.

When I wear this one out, I will be shopping for a sturdier machine, annd then I will consider your other suggestions.

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