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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Bernina 820 or 830 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Bernina 820 or 830
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Date: 9/3/12 11:54 AM

I have been lusting for an 820 for some time. I currently have a wonderful BL Ellegante2 which I do love. bought it in 2010 ... at that time it was a toss up between BL and Bernina, and was told BL embroidery is easier than Bernina embroidery. Well, ask me how much embroidery I've done ... sigh...not much. So looking at 820 as a wonderful SEWING machine ... then found out I could possibly trade in my Ellegante2 and get the 830. Do I dare? Does the 830 SEW as great as I've heard the 820 sews? I want the embroidery capability for the future (yeah, right ...). I could just get the 820 and keep the BL. Advice needed ... and thank you.

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Date: 9/3/12 12:00 PM

Have you tried both machines out? That would be the first thing to do, as you may love one and dislike the other.

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Date: 9/3/12 12:08 PM

going to look at the 7 series on Thursday and will try out the 820 and 830 then. Looking at 7 series only to check off all the critical boxes. Already know I want an "8" ... I have an old old 830 which I still love and it stills stitches perfectly, so not too concerned about how the Berninas perform overall ... just trying to figure out whether I want to give up the BL with it's embroidery stuff, or whether I want to just go with the 830 that will do it all. But does it really do it all? maybe the more I write about it the clearer it will get...ok, going to stop now ... and again, thanks!

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Date: 9/3/12 12:16 PM

No machine does it all, but if you aren't going to do a lot of embroidery, go for the 830. If you want to be able to sew and embroider at the same time, keep the BL for embroidery and get the 820 for sewing.

It depends on what there is with the BL embroidery that the 830 doesn't have, if it's stuff you don't want to give up. Is there the possibility of keeping the BL, getting the 820, and trading it up for the 830 down the road? A have your cake and eat it too scenario.
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Date: 9/3/12 12:19 PM

I thought the 7 series were not out until late this month. Does your deal have them in stock already? I'd like to hear about this if they do.

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Date: 9/3/12 12:19 PM

Not unbiased here but...
First as already mentioned, go sew on both of them and see what you think. I think you'll find both the 820 and 830 sew beautifully. Looking only at sewing functions though there are things the 830 can do that the 820 can't, and it has a bigger screen.
If you rarely do embroidery you'd probably find the Ellegante more intuitive when you have a project to do or it's holiday time and you want to embroider and haven't touched the machine for awhile. Just my opinion. I felt a lot more comfortable doing a lot more on screen on the Brother/BL than the 830, but that's just me. The capability of the 830 is amazing, so while there may be more ramp up/review time to embroider if you do it infrequently, you have some outstanding features and capability such as the positioning capabilities, bringing in built in stitches and or combining them, and turning them into embroidery (think frames, continuous borders, etc.).
The only logical thing I see doing (since it's your budget not mine ) is to keep the Ellegante and get the 830
Disclaimer, I have the Brother version of the Ellegante, do not have an 8xx, but work p/t for a multiline dealer that carries all these brands in addition to my f/t marketing career.

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Date: 9/3/12 12:32 PM

Learn To Sew: This is the preview of the machines. My dealer will have only 1 machine, I think the 780 on preview. The stock will be in house probably later this month.

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Date: 9/3/12 12:34 PM

Oh, I LIKE this idea! Keep the BL, get the 820 and then trade up if I find I can't satisfy that 830 itch! Thank you sooooo much! and since they're running a sale on the 830LE, I'm betting that there's a newer version coming ... happy dance ...

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Date: 9/3/12 12:39 PM

This is just me being cynical.... and I've got a few minutes on this beautiful holiday day while I'm eatin' breakfast on my humble little patio... so here goes:

I think the trade-in deals are often just slick marketing.

The dealers I've seen that are playing the trade-in game around here are doing it to just bring the outrageous MSRP prices out of orbit and down to earth.

Then... think about this: *Some* sell used machines. Most (at least here) do not. Seems the ones that don't are probably ditching those trade-in machines for very little to some shop or internet source that will sell them cheap. In other words, the trade in isn't worth much most of the time.

Seems to me there are some real similarities between used cars and sewing machines when it comes to the trade-in funky math.

The dealer is probably making money on both sides of it when you trade. The price they're offering might be doable without the trade if you shop around.

And more than that... do you really want to give up what you have? I think some of this trade-in tactic is to create a no-return situation that will force you into the path of the new machine - because your other option (your old machine) went bye-bye.

I was at a Sewing Expo earlier this summer - and one dealer was offering a flat $1,000 for a trade in on certain new models. I couldn't help myself ::::snicker::::: ... I told them all I have is an old Kenmore... (and I could buy *something* Kenmore off of Craigslist for $20 if I had to! lol) .... and they were cool with that... they said it was for ANY machine traded in. So that means it's just a tool for making the customer feel differently about the discount down from MSRP.

If you're sold on Berninas, I get that! Being sincere! I looked at the 820 & 830 first when I started shopping 3 months ago.

I got overwhelmed and decided to not pursue the embroidery world for a few months - but I wanted to get sewing again. So I decided to shop for a decent sewing machine first.

And not sure if you're finding info from others on all of this yet - but it seems that many sewers would rather have a second machine for embroidery anyway... so the embroidery machine can chug away on a project and you can still be working on something else while it's doing its thing. I hadn't really thought about that in the beginning - but that was one of the biggies that made me feel really good about just buying a joy of a sewing-only machine first, right off the bat.

I ended up feeling that if I ever want to do embroidery... for the $10,000 they really want for an 830, or even the $7,000 for something like an Ellisimo Gold, I'm more leaning towards getting a real 6 needle embroidery machine these days.

Just somethin' to think about.

And if you're only looking at getting the 820 because of the harp space... then I would recommend looking at all brands that have a wide machine. Other than if getting the BSR is uber-important on your list, I believe that my $2,500 Horizon can do anything - as far as creating superb construction on different materials - that the $7,000 820 can.

Recently, I posted on here that I want the BSR... and some people tell me it's over-rated... so heck... I guess for now I'm feeling like I made a great choice. But that's not sayin' that I won't be adding a Bernina to my arsenal sometime down the road - it just didn't make sense as a primary machine to me at this point.

Have fun... can't wait to see what follows you home!

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Date: 9/3/12 12:42 PM

Looks like the OP has decided.
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