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Message Board > Sewing Machines > My beautiful stitch obsession...I don't understand what it is with black thread... ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Date: 12/16/12 10:45 AM

So, I bought a Viking Tribute 140 C last spring and haven't sewed much with it. Until recently. I decided to make some Christmas gifts. I threaded with black thread and the stitches looked just awful. I remember something about black thread on the forums before...threaded with blue thread and the stitches are just beautiful. I'm really confused. What could possibly be different about black thread (oh and I have the guterman thread that everyone says is so great)?

I threaded with blue coats and clark (which everyone says is awful).

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Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/16/12 11:30 AM

Try using cotton thread instead of polyester. This will improve the appearance of your stitches, regardless of the color.

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Date: 12/16/12 11:38 AM

Did you say some time ago also Microtek needles helps make a better stitch too? .... I just wondered .... Thank you!

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Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/16/12 12:13 PM

Black thread can be weaker than the other colors due to the over-dyeing process.

This may, or may not be the issue. But there is some reason navy/dark blue gives better results than black.

I have been using Robison-Anton poly thread without any issues. I got a good price on a lot from Shoppers Rule thinking I would use it for charity projects and found it worth reordering for my personal sewing projects.

I prefer the microtex type needle, but in this case it seems to be the thread and not the needle.


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Date: 12/16/12 1:25 PM

It may have something to do with the dye itself. If you shop yarn departments and feel the yarns, usually the black feels rougher than other colors in the same brand.

It sounds as if your machine is sensitive....How old is the machine? I've found that my two modern machines like the Guterman and will sew with the Coats and Clark, but not make a perfect looking stitch. My vintage machines are just the opposite..they like the C & C the best!

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Date: 12/16/12 4:24 PM

Try the black in C & C. I don't like guterman thread. I tried it based on good reports here too but it shreds and it is well dusty (that is not a normal word for thread but I don't know what else to say). I only use C & C now. Hancock's sells Mettler but I haven't tried it yet. I don't know why people say they don't like C & C. I don't have problems with it. It is interesting that people are saying it is the dye in the black thread that makes it weak-I just don't have a problem with it and I use black alot. It will be interesting to see what others say. HTH.

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Date: 12/16/12 6:15 PM

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and it is well dusty (that is not a normal word for thread but I don't know what else to say).


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Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/16/12 6:19 PM

I didn't have any problems w/ C&C when we lived in OH either. Maybe it's the humidity... but have been having problems w/ all the brands of thread here in NM. It's soooooo dry.

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Date: 12/16/12 10:37 PM

Black thread (or even dark blue or whatever) is often a stinker and handles different from lighter colors sometimes. I do think sometimes it makes it stiffer and less bendable. Even across all brands and fiber types. I think it's just even because of the sheer amount of dye it has to retain, in it, to even get it and keep it that dark and black sometimes.

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Subject: My beautiful stitch obsession...I dont understand what it is with black thread... Date: 12/17/12 1:14 AM

I read that black thread sometimes started life as another color, which didn't come out right, then was dyed black to salvage it. So it's at least sometimes overdyed, overprocessed, like hair which is bleach then colored.

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