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Date: 12/31/12 2:02 PM

I bought a Bernina, with decorative stitches and the optional embroidery module. I have not bought the embroidery module yet, this is my first computerized machine and just wanted to get familiar with the machine first.

I have been testing the decorative stitches, and have found a problem with the way it is stitching out. So far there are two stitches that have this issue, they both have the satin stitch in the design. Will this mean that I might potentially have issues with the embroidery unit as well?

When the embroidery unit is plugged in, are the feed dogs disengaged? Or do the feed dogs assist with the embroidery.

I'm just trying to get a handle on what other unforseen issues this might have down the road. I can still return the machine.

Here's what I'm talking about.

The bow stitch.


The bow stitch executed by the machine


I've even tried it with tearaway stabilizer and it doesn't get better.

The next stitch was a leaf pattern


There's a gap between the bottom stitch so the design doesn't close all the way.


A little better here, but even stabilizer doesn't close the design completely.



-- Edited on 12/31/12 2:08 PM --

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Date: 12/31/12 2:17 PM

This is more of a sewing machine issue than an embroidery problem. Also, what model of Bernina do you have?

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Date: 12/31/12 2:22 PM

It's the Aurora 450. It was a trade in. I've also done the buttonholes and while the satin stitch is excellent on them, the tacking portion is very bulky on all of buttonholes except for 1 (out of 7).

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Date: 12/31/12 3:51 PM

The buttonholes are probably more of a concern-- though someone with an aurora can probably tell you what's off about those decorative stitches. What do these samples look like from underneath?

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Date: 12/31/12 4:18 PM

It's the balance that needs adjusted. I don't remember how to do it on an Aurora. It is in the manual, although I must say the Bernina manuals need a few lessons on indexing! It won't affect your embroidery at all. It's also possible the tech might be able to adjust it. You really should only need to adjust the balance occasionally. But you will need to do it, depending on your fabric, so it's a good thing to learn.

The feed dogs must be manually lowered - button on the right end of the machine - for embroidery

Enjoy your 450, it's a lovely machine. I used to own one.

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Date: 12/31/12 4:23 PM

Hi, I don't have that machine. I have a brother and an old Pfaff sewing machine. If you look in your manual there should be a page where it tells you how to balance any decorative stitches that come out like yours. You should be able to fine tune the stitches. On my Brother there is a design that is used to help with fine tuning the decorative stitch that is giving you trouble. It tells you how to change the stitch so that the design meets correctly. Also, as far as your buttonholes are concerned, It looks like you do not have any stabilizer under your fabric. I would also have another look at how to make buttonholes in your manual.
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Date: 12/31/12 4:45 PM

Take it to your Bernina dealer for so they can tweak the balance on the stitches. It is a quick process (maybe 5 minutes) and they should do it while you wait. Take your samples so they can see which stitches are not stitching correctly.

Before you do that, what kind of stabilizer did you use? If it is slick on the side the feed dogs touch, then try another kind. The slick kind will mess up the stitches. Ask how I know.Oh! Slow down your machine on those satin stitches. That will help them form better too.

The satin stitches have nothing to do with the embroidery module. When you use the embroidery module, you drop the feed dogs. Only the embroidery arm moves and the needle goes up and down. Even though it can look like the needle is going in many directions, it is the module arm that is moving.

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Date: 12/31/12 4:54 PM

Thank you everyone, I'll have a look in the manual and I remember seeing something about balance but they use a buttonhole as the example.

The stabilizer is a medium weight tearaway and is not slick at all.

I wonder if a hoop would make a difference.

Also thank you on the embroidery information. If I can get this sorted out it will make a nice travel / embroidery / quilting machine.

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Date: 12/31/12 5:22 PM

Depending on which Bernina you have, you can adjust the balance on the stitches. Since more than one is off and they are satin stitches, let the dealer do it. They use a tool inserted into a small hole on the machine while stitching out a number in the dealer's mode. This adjustment is different than what we can do to balance a stitch.

I would not use a hoop to do decorative stitches. Just slow down the machine so it can form the stitches properly.

The dealer can also adjust that buttonhole.

-- Edited on 12/31/12 5:31 PM --

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✝The Lord is my Light and my Salvation: whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27:1✝

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Date: 12/31/12 7:04 PM

Seeing those buttonholes, it looks like an adjustment needs to be made, like the others say. I would expect the dealer to fix that right away.

Do you have the bobbin thread going through the bobbin finger? That can cause some problems with the deco and satin stitches. I don't have the Aurora, but have a 630 which I think is similar.

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