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Message Board > Fitting Woes > Vogue 1250 dress sizing ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Vogue 1250 dress sizing
Cut size to chart, seems way too big
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Date: 1/6/13 1:50 PM

I cut the pattern to size 18 of Vogue 1250 due my my measurements on the pattern flap . It looks way too big. I do understand the difference between RTW sizing and pattern sizing but this just seems way off. For what it's worth, I generally take an 8 in RTW with something that has this much stretch, a 10 in something without stretch.

Is there a general rule of thumb that I should just up-size 2 sizes from RTW to Vogue pattern? It seems like the 14 looks closer.

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Date: 1/6/13 2:15 PM

Did you measure by your high bust or full bust? I agree, the 14 is probably closer to what your actual size would be.

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Date: 1/6/13 2:18 PM

Did you measure by your high bust or full bust? I agree, the 14 is probably closer to what your actual size would be.

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Date: 1/6/13 3:47 PM

That's probably one of the most frustrating things about starting out (and continuing to sew). Pattern companies are inconsistent and inaccurate with their sizing. I'm partial to what Nancy Zieman says in "Pattern Fitting with Confidence". She advises choosing the pattern size based on you shoulder size (since this is the most difficult area to fit) and then adjusting other areas as needed.

ArtAttack and I recently exchanged some emails on this subject and the book and here is what she said on determining the correct shoulder size

"The cross chest measurment is sort of hard to do by yourself. If you can enlist the help of a friend, here is a good way to do it: Shove a magazine under each arm. Have your friend measure across your chest from one armpit crease to the other. Go to the nearest 1/2". Your starting point to figure from is size 14. The across the chest measurment is based on a size 14 as the base. So, if you measure 14" from armpit crease to armpit crease you would use a size 14 pattern. For every half inch up or down you go to the next size. In my case, I measure 13.5" across so I use a size 12."

I like to then look at finished garment measurement to determine what size waist and hips to cut. Don't forget to factor in style and wearing ease though!

Based on these measurements I cut a 10 bodice, but if I follow the sizing chart, I would need about a 14. I'm in inverted triangle (wider shoulders than hips) so I sometimes taper the waist in and always taper the hips down at least 1-2 sizes, but I make this determination based on the finished garment measurements and how much ease I would like. Hope that helps!

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Date: 1/7/13 10:03 PM

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Did you measure by your high bust or full bust? I agree, the 14 is probably closer to what your actual size would be.

Full bust. My full bust measurement is 40, high bust is 38.
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Date: 1/7/13 10:03 PM

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Did you measure by your high bust or full bust? I agree, the 14 is probably closer to what your actual size would be.

Full bust. My full bust measurement is 40, high bust is 38.
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Date: 1/7/13 10:08 PM

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ArtAttack and I recently exchanged some emails on this subject and the book and here is what she said on determining the correct shoulder size
"The cross chest measurment is sort of hard to do by yourself. If you can enlist the help of a friend, here is a good way to do it: Shove a magazine under each arm. Have your friend measure across your chest from one armpit crease to the other. Go to the nearest 1/2". Your starting point to figure from is size 14. The across the chest measurment is based on a size 14 as the base. So, if you measure 14" from armpit crease to armpit crease you would use a size 14 pattern. For every half inch up or down you go to the next size. In my case, I measure 13.5" across so I use a size 12."



I like to then look at finished garment measurement to determine what size waist and hips to cut. Don't forget to factor in style and wearing ease though!



Based on these measurements I cut a 10 bodice, but if I follow the sizing chart, I would need about a 14. I'm in inverted triangle (wider shoulders than hips) so I sometimes taper the waist in and always taper the hips down at least 1-2 sizes, but I make this determination based on the finished garment measurements and how much ease I would like. Hope that helps!

14.5"

It's the skirt part of the dress that seems too way too big.
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Date: 1/7/13 10:37 PM

According to both methods of measuring-- HB=38 inches, cross chest 14.5 inches, you need a size 16 bodice. What size are your hips? You may need to taper up or down to have the skirt fit correctly.

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Date: 1/7/13 10:45 PM

Hips 41 between the 16 and 18

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Date: 1/7/13 10:47 PM

If between sizes, use the smaller size. Enough ease is allowed to get to the next size.
Is your waist close to the 16 also or do you need to go up or down?
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