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Message Board > Fitting Woes > How to support off-shoulder/low back evening gown? ( Moderated by CarolynGM, Deepika)

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Date: 1/11/13 4:00 PM



Hi everyone! I'm new hereI do custom evening gowns, mainly for pageant girls, and this off the shoulder evening gown look is very popular right now. Does anyone know how in the world this heavy beaded strap stays up like that?

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Date: 1/11/13 4:23 PM

Welcome ysadora! Wow, that is a gorgeous gown. How I would love to be able to wear all that decoration around the hips. Unfortunately I have a long torso on a short body so there is no way that would work. Yes, that is exactly the reason. Nothing to do with the size of the hips and belly - just the location.

I make competition ballroom gowns (mostly just for me) and have NO training in actual tailoring and don't even have the famed Susan Khalje book for making formal wear. But my first instinct would be to use power mesh as the base for that, probably a few layers to give it enough oomph.

If that isn't enough, take a look at Stitches and Sparkles and her tutorial for making ballroom jewelry with power mesh, silicone caulking and rhinestones. A lot of the jewelry I see at competitions is made this way. It would get pretty heavy if it is that heavily stoned, but it would be very sturdy. Perhaps sturdiness is not such an issue in pageants. The flinging around in tango and the super speed of quickstep require everything to stay put, even in collisions.

Keen to see how you work it out. Please stick around and post some photos for us!

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Date: 1/11/13 4:35 PM

Thank you Tourist! Your suggestions are GREAT! In addition to constructing the beaded strap itself, my main concern is how I can keep it up like that -it seems to be defying gravity by not drooping when I know it's so heavy and it's only attached on the side of the front bustline. Any ideas?

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Date: 1/11/13 4:48 PM

Oh, I was hoping you wouldn't ask that. The power mesh plus silicone might make it firm enough to not sag in the mid back area? And the attachment - whoo - tough one. Off the top of my head, I am thinking a very firm tab maybe from really heavy interfacing going down into the bra cup and extending up a few inches into the drape? First thought is serious hook and eye closures as used in pants, at least on one side. Then the person could get into the gown and fasten it on.

And this is all making me think of older style materials like buckram and boning. Hmmm...wide boning could reinforce the piece enough to hold it without sagging. Especially through the top edge of it?

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Date: 1/11/13 4:51 PM

It probably has a shaped wire enclosed in a shaped casing.....similar to boning in a vertical seam. There may be a heavy elastic in a casing gripping only so slightly to the body ( too taught and it would flip up! )

It may be a combo of wire on main piece and a little bit of elastic into bodice. The embellishment covers a multitude of engineering tricks, right?

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Date: 1/11/13 5:00 PM

Thank you all! I had a similar problem when making this dress, because the shoulder pieces were solid crystal in metal settings (heavy!) though the major difference here was I did get to attach the off the shoulder beading to the back of the bodice (which was heavily boned in the corners) so there was some support there. I used buckram folded over several times and inserted it a few inches into the bodice seam in the front and back.


For the gown above I'm thinking that maybe you are right that they used some sort of boning piece that extended several inches across the bustline, and then applied the beading to buckram. Does anyone know of anywhere I could get such a boning piece? Otherwise, would I just use several pieces of spiral steel boning and flat steel boning across the back where it doesn't bend? Yes, this is an engineering marvel!
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Date: 1/11/13 5:25 PM

I would imagine there's some Hollywood Fashion Tape involved as well. That stuff is great!

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Date: 1/12/13 2:43 PM

I have used Rigilene ( the boning) to support this kind of thing with the buckram inbetween.
Good luck! Great gown .

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Date: 1/14/13 6:21 PM

Pamela, so did you have the Rigilene extend into the top of the seam on the front of the bodice? And how many strips of Rigilene did you use? Thanks!

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Date: 1/14/13 9:43 PM

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Pamela, so did you have the Rigilene extend into the top of the seam on the front of the bodice? And how many strips of Rigilene did you use? Thanks!


I think I'd use that...plus extend the vertical boning that goes from the waist to just outside the bust up to where it meets that horizontal support. That would give more support due to the sort of triangle you will have formed.

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