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Date: 1/26/13 10:02 PM

Hello!
I'm a fairly new to sewing. I have completed a few different projects. But I keep having a recurring problem. My bobbin thread keeps slipping from its groove in the bobbin case. When it does this it causes a huge birds nest. Almost all of my projects have required me to rip multiple seems because of it.
This happens most when using pre-quilted fabric. I thought it might be the bobbin case and replaced it...that wasn't the issue :(

I should also mention I'm using a fairly cheap Brother machine. It's a Walmart special. I'm hoping to upgrade soon with my tax check :)

Thanks for any help!

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Date: 1/26/13 11:18 PM

Hi..I may not be able to offer much help. But, the first thing that came to mind is, are you inserting the bobbin the correct way around? On my Janome, which is a top loading bobbin, I have to have the bobbin and thread make a "P", with the bobbin being the round top part of the P and the tail being the thread. ie..the thread comes off the top of the bobbin to the left and down. If it's the other way around (a "q") it will make a difference.

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Date: 1/26/13 11:55 PM

Thanks for responding. I have tried it both ways. I have a side loading bobbin. I'm doing it the way the manual shows, but I did try inserting the opposite way and I got the same result.

Hopefully someone else has had this problem and knows what to do!

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Date: 1/27/13 4:34 AM

This is a common problem for beginners. There are previous discussions about this issue with various names, but I can't find any of them right now, so here is the usual response that people get:

Nesting is not a bobbin problem. It is almost always a top thread tension problem. Sometimes it is caused by difficult fabrics or adhesives grabbing the thread, but most of the time, the tension problem is solved by rethreading the machine with attention to the top thread path and tension settings.

First, put the presser foot UP. It is important that you always thread and unthread your machine with the presser foot UP because the tension discs are released when the foot is up. When the foot is down, the tension discs will grip the top thread and add the tension that balances your stitch. If you thread the machine with the foot down, the thread may not get between the discs to have the right tension, ending up with loose top thread loops when the needle brings the thread to the bobbin race for the stitch.

Cut the top thread at the spool and pull the loose thread through the thread path in the direction it travels to the needle. This helps to drag any loose threads and lint out of the tension discs. Make sure that your thread is unwinding the direction that your machine wants it to; clockwise or counterclockwise, over or or under the spool. Rethread the top thread with the presser foot UP, being sure that the thread is seated in the discs and all the thread guides, so that the thread is held and passes through properly when the presser foot is down and the tension is engaged.

Clean out the bobbin area if there is any lint or stray threads that could interfere with smooth bobbin movement. If you have a front-loading bobbin (I think this is what you mean by side loading), check to be sure that the thread is caught in the guides of the bobbin holder and that the unit is seated correctly in the machine when you reload it. If it is a top-loading bobbin, check that the thread is caught in the bobbin tension.

Now try sewing again. Hopefully that will fix your problem.

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Date: 1/27/13 8:21 AM

When you are putting your boobin in do hear a click or feel a catch? You should not be able to wiggle the bobbin case around in any way- it should stay firmly put.
Is it a latch type case? Sometimes if you hold the latch open, press it in place and then release the catch it will click into position.

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Date: 1/27/13 1:07 PM

Thank you for responding. I will try what you've suggested again. I've tried this before, but I'm still having the issue.

Could it have anything to do with the prequilted fabric I'm using? Also, you mentioned it being a top thread issue, I have adjusted and readjusted the top thread over and over...I read that it was caused from the top thread being too loose, could it be that it's too tight?

Thanks so much for your replies!

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Date: 1/27/13 1:58 PM

When the presser foot is up, the upper tension is open.

Make sure the needle is at it's highest position and this should help in getting the arm/finger of the bobbin case into the opening on the race. Refer to the maintenance section of your manual for a graphic along with instructions.

Back to the upper tension. Try sewing a thinner (than quilted) fabric. It could be the thicker fabric is lifting the presser foot to a position where it is opening the upper tension.

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Date: 1/27/13 3:04 PM

If the presser foot is not raised by the fabric high enough to affect the tension, your machine is properly threaded, and it's only this material you are having such trouble with, it's possible that your pre-quilted fabric could be catching the top thread, changing the tension.

It is worth trying Sewer's Aid (nayy). The product I have is marketed by Collins, got it at Joann Fabrics. I think it is readily available at sewing and craft stores. Not expensive, maybe $3-5 for a bottle that will last a long time. It's a silicone lubricant that makes the thread glide more easily through sticky and challenging fabrics. You don't need much. Just dribble a line of the liquid along the length of the spool from time to time as you sew. You'll know when it needs to be reapplied when the thread starts to look like it is going to stick. In sewing costumes with confetti dot, vinyl, rubber, neoprene, pleather, plastics, bonded materials, this product is a lifesaver, time saver, hair saver, mind saver, machine saver, etc.

Thread Heaven (nayy) is another product that could work but it is a solid primarily intended for hand sewing to keep thread from tangling. Cost about $4-5 the last time I looked. It also lasts a long time because a little goes a long way. It is more difficult to use with a machine, though I did see something once about putting a chunk of it on the machine in a way that the thread glides through it on the way to the needle. I've used both products, Sewer's Aid for the machine spool and Thread Heaven for hand sewing.

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Date: 1/27/13 5:57 PM

I find this sometimes happens when I forget to lower the pressed foot when I start to sew. Easy to do when sewing thicker fabric such as quilted fabric!

Whenever, for whatever reason, first take bobbin and thread off machine and start the threading process all over. Amazing how often this fixes problem without even finding out cause in the first place.

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Date: 1/28/13 5:15 AM

When you upgrade, be sure to take projects like this. Take your needle, thread and the fabric to test. Machines, even from the same dealer, sew differently. I have had a $1100 machine that nested and a $100 machine that didnt.

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