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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Pfaff 1222 vs 1214 ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Pfaff 1222 vs 1214 What are the differences
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Date: 2/3/13 10:44 AM

I am looking to purchase a Pfaff machine with IDT. Both the 1222 and 1214 have it. So far I have seen many more reviews on the 1222 and only one on the 1214. What are the major differences and which model is newer. Also do the 1214's have nylon gears same as the 1222 which I understand sometimes crack. The other way of asking this is if any of the faffs have metal gears?

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Date: 2/3/13 11:39 AM

IIRC, no sewing machine made since the 1970s has metal gears.

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Date: 2/5/13 4:57 AM

Thanks for the clarification regarding parts composition. Still wondering if anyone has used both the Pfaff 1222 and the Pfaff 1214 and if there are any noticeable differences?

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Date: 2/5/13 11:12 AM

I haven't used either of them, so am no help there. Have you looked at the new Pfaff Ambition machines? They all have IDT and are very reasonably priced. The Pfaff Anniversary machines are both gorgeous and have IDT, as well.

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Date: 2/5/13 12:50 PM

The 1222 is a classic machine. Be careful that the gears and cam stack aren't cracked. When I say this is doesn't mean they are going to crack on you - mine has not, but some times people sell them that way. It seems the 1214 takes snap on feet! The 1222 does not. I see a huge picture of the manual for the 1214 online and it is nice. I love my 1222E. Parts such as foot pedals are expensive, so be sure whatever you buy has all the necessary parts. Parts, service and even rebuilding can be found in several places. One is Brubaker's in Pennsylvania, and Sewing Rebel on eBay is another actual store and he does Pfaff stuff too. A classic Pfaff from this era, well taken care of, is a treasure.
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Date: 2/6/13 9:22 PM

I have the 1222E and I love it for the perfect straight stitch and the IDF.

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Date: 2/6/13 10:07 PM

Don't let anyone work on your 1222 that doesn't know what they are doing..
I had to do a complete ground up rebuild on a machine because the tech they took it to before me messed it up horrifically.

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Date: 2/7/13 0:35 AM

I have a Pfaff 1221 flat bed electronic sewing machine,it's the same as the Pfaff 1222 free arm sewing machine.Both machines can make 40 of the 60 decorative stitches the Pfaff 1222E electronic free arm sewing machine can make,that is the only difference.Some people had one of their 1221s and 1222s pattern push buttons replaced by dealers,those sewing machines can make 60 decorative stitches too.All of them have the IDT,(original Pfaff identical dual transport).

Several years ago a fellow was selling Pfaff 1214s he bought at a school auction,
he wanted 50 dollars for each 1214.It sounded like a good deal to me,I drove to another city to look at them.All the machines came from district high schools.
Most of the foot controls didn't work,I had to spend time finding a working foot control looking through many boxes filled with odds and ends in the the fellow's backyard.I noticed the Pfaff 1214s he bought at the auction were not electronic sewing machines.I didn't care to sew on any of the 1214s he was selling.

I like my Pfaff 1221 and my Pfaff 1229,the last of the Pfaff 1200 series sewing machines.It has a low bobbin indicator too.It has snap on presser feet,but so does my Pfaff 1221.Anyone can buy a shank adapter for their 1200 series sewing machines and use all of the snap on presser feet they like with a cut out at the back for the IDT.


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Date: 2/7/13 10:08 AM

The shanks are 50 to 55 dollars and I have seen them online at Brubaker's Sewing in PA.

The 1222E has some electronics that allow speed control in the foot pedal that it uses. My main fear is my 1222E's pedal will go if I use it for FMQ too much. Replacement foot pedals are expensive. Even the non-electronic pedal for my 1199 was 70 dollars and that was about 9 years ago and it took us almost a year to find one and buy it. It may be easier to source these now because of the growth of the internet since then.

If you can get a nice machine in this line of machines, and your total outlay wouldn't be more than 400-450 for refurbed machine, foot pedal and proper feet, I would say go for it. IF you want one. On the other hand, as LynneRowe points out, you can get IDT new for about twice that. Or maybe a bit less - possible 800. I think.

I never use the deco stitches that you can create on the Pfaff. I did in the beginning on doll clothes and my DD's little dresses for awhile, but after that, no. There are almost an infinite number of special combos you can use to get some lovely decorative patterns.

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Date: 2/7/13 10:08 AM

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Don't let anyone work on your 1222 that doesn't know what they are doing..

I had to do a complete ground up rebuild on a machine because the tech they took it to before me messed it up horrifically.

Unreal. Once I had the service manual for my 1209, I found the machine straightforward. (Not so with the vintage Viking machines, that's for sure.) It now works beautifully. Beautifully enough that I'm now looking to find her a new home.
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