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Message Board > Sewing Machines > Is the Viking Designer 1 too old to consider? ( Moderated by Sharon1952, EleanorSews)

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Is the Viking Designer 1 too old to consider?
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Date: 2/3/13 11:45 PM

Hi everyone. I am looking for a higher end machine (I have a straight stitch, all metal Brother from the 50s and a Brother PC-420), but I want something that does embroidery and is a little higher end.

I looked at Berninas, but even used, they cost more than my last 3 cars. Not quite that bad, but you know what I mean. I've been looking at the Viking Designer SE as well, but I haven't seen many for sale. Someone locally is advertising a Viking Designer 1 WITH USB (I know the early ones didn't have that) for 499. I think that's a decent price for a machine that has a color touch screen and embroidery functionality and USB. I searched for posts about the Designer 1, but they are all very old.

My question is, do you think that machine is too old for me to even consider? I know many people love them, but I've never had a Viking before, so I'm not familair with them. Would the software work on a computer running Windows 7? Does it have the "automatic" presser foot like the SE?

Used Designer SE and Bernina 730 machines seem to go for about 2000 to 3000 dollars locally, so I could wait a while and hope for one of those if I have to and save longer, but if this machine will be a good deal and do all the things I want (mostly quilting and embroidery), it would save me a lot of money!

What kind of bobbins do Vikings take?

Anything else I should consider?

Thank you so much for your time :o)

Thank you for your time!

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Date: 2/4/13 0:21 AM

I have Bernina's. I also bought a used Designer 1 with floppies...it is a delight! Go look at it...for $499 you can't go wrong. I really have a blast with mine. Pam Damour uses a Designer 1 in her home dec videos done awhile back, I do not know what she uses now. It will get you into the embroidery stuff and you can then slowly decide what you want. Not until you do a bunch of embroidery will you know the features you want. The Designer 1 is one of the last machines made in Sweden. Mine performs to the standard I am used to with my Bernina's. There is a yahoo group for the Designer 1 as well...you might pilfer some info there.
Could you take the machine to a repair place or Viking dealer to make sure it is OK? Don't want one that has been rode hard and put up wet you know.

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Date: 2/4/13 1:10 AM

yes. get something else

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Date: 2/4/13 3:20 AM

These are very nice machines made in Sweden, and were TOL when the were released. Yes they have the auto sensor foot. But the technology for embroidery is older. You could do a USB upgrade though. For that price though you have a machine that can sew nicely and should have a bunch of accessories included.
I still have a D1 even though I switched to Bernina years ago. I really ought to rehome it just as its not getting use because the floppy disk drive died and I have the means now to embroider on a Bernina.
It does have a range of lovely styles of buttonholes and is easy to learn.
It doesn't have the same flexibility with embrodery that you get with TOL machines today because the technology is from the very late 90's, but it did embroider well and I was always pleased with the embroidery quality. it can take Mega Hoops right down to tiny sized ones for heirloom cross stitch and petit point small scale motifs.
See if you can get a dealer to check it out, check the stitch count, see if anything was upgraded/ replaced during the owner's time. If it has been then some of the inside parts are newer at least.

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Date: 2/4/13 4:08 AM

Thank you both for responding thus far... I really appreciate it! Remember, this one has the USB so it is a little newer than the ones that took the disks... the seller says they recently had it serviced, but I think they all say that :o)

I don't care if the embroidery technology is a little older, as long as it works and has a usb. The most important thing to me is smooth sewing and an auto thread cutter and it should have both of those things. It is still listed on the Viking web site!

I wrote the seller, hopefully they will respond tomorrow. It's an hour drive from me, but would be worth it if the machine is worth getting. I don't know what accessories or feet or software it comes with, if any...

There is a Viking dealer not too far that I called a few weeks ago to see if they sold used machines... they don't, but they do service machines that weren't bought there. There is also a Viking dealer in the Joanns, but they ignore me when I go in there... possibly because I'm a "young" (29) guy, they think I'm not serious.

I found a Bernina 200 that had been upgraded to a 730 a few days ago and it was 1000 bucks, but the seller had already sold it and just failed to take down the ad...

I have to decide whether or not to sell my PC 420 once I get a TOL combo...I know back up machines are nice, but I still have the vintage straight stitcher for a back up or to piece with if the other one is tied up embroidering...

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Date: 2/4/13 6:32 AM

These were GREAT machines. My worry is if parts are still available and for how long the mother board will carry you. I would try to get the straight skinny on those 2 things and if its not a problem, you will have a great machine. The software (4-D) is good, but was difficult for me to learn. But I'm not the norm there.

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Date: 2/4/13 7:49 AM

I had a D1 and sold it to purchase the SE when it came out years ago. The D1 with USB is a great machine. I really like my SE too.

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Date: 2/4/13 8:17 AM

I have a Designer I that I bought in 2000. It has a floppy drive. I rarely embroider on it anymore, though it does a very nice job with that. I LOVE LOVE this machine as a sewing and quilting machine though and would not give it up. You are getting an excellent price on it even if you just sew.

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Date: 2/4/13 9:36 AM

I have a D1, it's a great machine. Yes, it has the same hover foot that the SE has. You can run the software with Windows 7 but I believe you will have to load new drivers first. You have to make sure you have the dongle that goes with the software. The D1 takes plastic bobbins. I think it would be worth checking out, it sounds like a good deal.

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Date: 2/4/13 11:30 AM

Good grief for $499? Keep it for a year and sew on it and get familiar with embroidery...then sell for $300 if you want to. But have it checked out first somehow...you don't want to just throw the money away.

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"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life's about creating yourself." George Bernard Shaw
Dan 9:24-27

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