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Date: 2/8/13 12:55 PM

I am getting frustrated. This is my first attempt at doing a rolled hem on my serger and after much fiddling with the tensions I went to the Janome site and found this info:

You will be using three threads: the right needle, lower looper, and upper looper.

1. Remove the left needle.

2. Set the right needle tension at 4.

3. Set the upper looper tension at 3.

4. Set the lower looper tension at 8.

5. Differential should be set at 1.0

6. Stitch Length should be set between R and 1.

This is completely different than the tension suggested in the manual (4/3/3/). I spent last night putting this tension up and that tension down, until I thought I should give it a rest for the night. This morning I checked the Janome site. The above tension of 4/3/8 is ALMOST there, the best yet, but the upper looper thread is still loose on the right side of the fabric, going beyond the needle stitching line.

I have been lazy and not removed my left needle ... just removed the thread, as someone told me not to bother. Does that make a difference? Any other advice?

Snowed in and determined Sewer in Southern Ontario :)

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Date: 2/8/13 2:48 PM

I have a Janome 634D serger and when doing a rolled hem I always remove the left needle -- it's not hard to remove or to put back in and keeps from poking extra holes in your fabric. Not sure if having the left needle in could cause a problem but I would definitely try removing it.

When I do a rolled hem I start with my tensions at 4/4/6 and then do test runs on fabric scraps -- in my experience there is not a universal tension setting for rolled hems. The numbers in the manual and on their website are simply starting points and will change depending on the fabric (and thread) you are using.

What kind of fabric are you using? Are you using regular serger thread?

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Date: 2/8/13 3:11 PM

I've come to the realization that it is something that always needs tinkering depending on the fabric, which just makes me sigh. I think it will prohibit me from doing it very often. I am practicing on a piece of light weight cotton, but what I really want to do is hem a tunic style knit top that I just finished. I have a RTW one that is hemmed this way and I love it. I am using regular serger thread. I don't own any wooly nylon. Thank you so much for your reply. I will try your tension settings and remove the needle. Right now I've stepped away for a break because I was about ready to give up.

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Date: 2/8/13 4:29 PM

Most of what I do rolled hem on is knits, nylon spandex, poly chiffon, nylon mesh, etc. (I do primarily athletic performance apparel in my business sewing).

I have found the 4/4/6 to be pretty close for most of the fabrics I use -- might need to make a slight adjustment for the mesh and chiffon. I use regular serger thread for most of my projects although have used metallic thread for adding some design detail (particularly on full skirts).

Definitely try removing the left needle. I'm not familiar with the 1110DX but on my machine there are 2 "switches" i have to change for doing the rolled hem -- one is on the front of the machine (lower looper pre-tension setting slider) which has an "S" and an "R" setting with the "R" being for rolled hemming. There is also a needle plate setting knob inside the looper cover which needs to be set to "R". I know both of these have to be set to "R" or the rolled hem won't work.

Don't give up -- just take a break and then try again.

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Date: 2/9/13 8:28 AM

When a serger forms the stitch the threads form loops on the bottom looper around the needles. If the left needle is left in the machine it forms little loops. The switch on the left side above the door STD...R actually tightens up the lower looper tension for you on this machine. You can than fine tune by going to a higher number on the lower looper. For the stitch lenght dial there's no zero so watch how tightly spaced the stitches get. At least the sun's out today.

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Date: 2/10/13 4:31 PM

Try tightening the upper looper tension a little or increasing the stitch width or the stitch length one at a time and then combine them. Sometimes you have to monkey around until you find the right combo for the fabric. Then MAKE A SAMPLE and staple a piece of paper to it with the settings. Hope you find the solution. If no,t try using a narrow flat hem instead. Use the rolled hem stitch finger except balance the upper and lower looper and use a close stitch length. I like this better on cottons and hard to roll edges, especially with wooly nylon in both loopers. Good coverage.

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Date: 2/11/13 0:23 AM

with this machine you must remove the leftmost needle. Then disengage your knife, push in the width adjustment knob and put the little switch on the needle plate to the R. This pulls the stitch finger out of the way thus allowing the fabric/stitches to roll. Then engage your knife. Put the stitch length on R or lower if you want the stitches closer together. This machine also has a switch on the front for Standard or Rolled-put it to Rolled. This tightens your lower tension to create the rolling. Sometimes you may have to decrease the upper tension a bit. If you really want a nice rolled hem, put wooly nylon thread in the upper looper!

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Date: 2/11/13 11:44 AM

Thanks everyone for all your replies. I did all the set-up for the machine as described above, except for removing the left needle. It is a very simple and quick procedure actually, disengaging the blade, moving the switch to R etc. etc. The only step I ignored was removing that left needle ... I just removed the thread. I will remove the thread tonight and let you know how I get on. I haven't gone near it since I last posted. If that does the trick I will be cheering you all and cursing the one who told me it wasn't necessary!

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Date: 2/11/13 5:59 PM

Wow! I took that left needle out and ... PERFECTION. I set the tensions back to the manual's suggestion and bingo, perfect rolled hem first try. Thanks lovely ladies! What a lot of time I wasted by listening to poor advice. Lesson learned ...

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Date: 2/11/13 8:52 PM

Hurray! Your machine can also do a very nice 2 thread rolled hem. Remove the upper looper thread, attach converter (white plastic with metal wire), inside door switch lever from 3 to 2. This is especially nice for very thin fabric.

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