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Date: 3/8/13 11:33 AM

I came across this while researching the new Janome. Back in the day we had pretty uniform hoop sizes. Nowdays it seems all the manufactuers are going in different directions and one size might fit one machine but be a tad too big for another. So third party design sites it's hit or miss now. I'm beginning to see a lot of designs at EL I can't use as I'm limited to 5 X 7.(Not like I need more designs, mind you).And I'm pretty happy with that as the length of time it takes to just stitch out some of those designs. But I digress, it would appear it's a marketing thing to force you away from the third party sites but to the brands own embroidery designs which are way more expensive then third party ones. I saw some designs by one of my fav designs on Secrets of and she didn't do them for the 5 X 7 hoop. I've seen this more then once. I don't know just a trend I see coming. It would just be nice if there was a standard hooping size like there use to pretty much be.

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Date: 3/9/13 0:25 AM

With some inexpensive software you could resize your designs and not have to worry about what size they were originally.

Worth a try?
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Date: 3/9/13 9:06 AM

Resizing designs can be tricky business some re-size well some don't. And also there the question of density. the designs are digitized to be a certain size.

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Date: 3/9/13 1:16 PM

Software these days will adjust density and only change size. I use PED-Design Next, Embird and Edit N Stitch (my first software). The first is expensive but the last two are reasonably priced and very effective. You can try the 2 latter programs before you buy.

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Date: 3/15/13 9:57 AM

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Software these days will adjust density and only change size. I use PED-Design Next, Embird and Edit N Stitch (my first software). The first is expensive but the last two are reasonably priced and very effective. You can try the 2 latter programs before you buy.

Ditto, I can resize quite easily to the bigger hoops and higher stitch counts w/out issue. I can also downsize as well in the Janome Digitizer as well.
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Date: 3/15/13 9:58 AM

Quote: tejaslady
Software these days will adjust density and only change size. I use PED-Design Next, Embird and Edit N Stitch (my first software). The first is expensive but the last two are reasonably priced and very effective. You can try the 2 latter programs before you buy.

Ditto, I can resize quite easily to the bigger hoops and higher stitch counts w/out issue. I can also downsize as well in the Janome Digitizer as well.
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Date: 3/15/13 10:28 AM

Problem is, when you get into applique and In The Hoop designs, resizing becomes tricky. Here is an example: we had an easter basket design in PES 5x7 that some people needed converted to JEF the other dasy at emb club. Well, the PES coverted to JEF but it was sized for PES which was a bit larger than 5x7 in JEF evidently because it would not work on the Janome machines. This basket design was in pieces you assemble later and were "crazy quilt" style. So the Janome girls did the 4x4 size.
I saw that the new Janome 9-something has weird sized hoops. I agree they should all be uniform.

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Subject: Lets get some uniformity Date: 3/22/13 10:55 AM

My biggest problem with size if that my dealer seems to focus everything on the Mega and Jumbo hoop bernina has. Those don't come standard with my machine (jumbo hoop won't fit) and are IMO insanely priced. So I can't do ANY of the embroidery classes at the shop. I still haven't figured out how to rehoop a design and line up the next part of it. I'm limited to basic designs.

My hoop is a good size, but sometimes I feel like it is too big and I waste stabilizer. Why are hoops so expensive?
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Date: 3/22/13 12:01 PM

I'm not sure and wonder who is really stitching out big designs on these hoops that will probably take hours. Also sometimes there is confusion about hoop sizes and the actual size the machine will embroider. That in the case of the Janome 10001. It has the giga hoop but only does a design 5 x7. Giga just allows you to combine designs. You can split designs but it's rather confusing. I would like a hoop that does a 8 or 12" square designs as that the biggest I would ever do and then just for stipplings as I mainly use designs in my quilts. And 12" is the biggest block I'd ever do. I basically want a combo embroidery machine and a longarm.
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Date: 3/22/13 12:31 PM

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I basically want a combo embroidery machine and a longarm.
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If that more or less what Bernina's Quilt Motion software is? (When you mount the machine on a frame?)

Do other brands have that?


Interesting about the large hoop not necessarily meaning you can do a large stitch out. A lot of what I see in the mega hoop is words along the side of a pillowcase.
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