Member since 3/4/03
Date: 3/9/13 7:32 AM
I am having some updating done in the guest bathroom before the company gets here the week before Easter. The contractor has also measure in the master bath as after the holiday and company leave we are going to get serious about moving out back there to gut the bath and take up the carpet for tile. At our ages we are thinking maybe we should remove or widen the door to the john in case of a wheel chair down the road and taking out the fiberglass tub shower. I am thinking of one of those step in tubs if I take out the present fiberglass unit as I prefer a bath over a shower. Have any of you had any dealings with these things as to the brands? Do they use a lot more water as I think running a lot more bath water would be annoying? Also I plan on an electric tankless water heater back there. Any thoughts on those or do you like them? I am very out of my league. We are ripping out the vanity and I want to make any changes now if I am going to since we will tile the bed/bath area when the bath is done. Dh thinks the one bathroom should be fixed in case of a fall or elderly needs that might be down the road. I'm not at all sure what we need to do and decision is close at hand so please help if you have any thoughts.
Member since 10/1/06
Date: 3/9/13 8:01 AM
I have been thinking along these lines also.
No answers, but an additional question to ask your dealer. Doesn't the user have to get into the tub and sit there while it fills? Same for emptying it; you must stay in the tub until it empties? It seems that it would be very chilly having to wait through that.
Member since 8/24/02
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Date: 3/9/13 10:23 AM
Friends of my mother had one installed in their house. The wife had a stroke when she was only 40 and managed very well for over 25 years, but when they had the last place built they had a step in tub installed.
They did not research other options and now wish they had.
Cons for them include:
Having to get into the tub then fill and waiting for it to empty.
The cost of heating a huge amount of hot water.
Unlike a regular tub, if you have 3-4 inches of water in it, only your ankles are covered in water.
The volume of water, they have metered water.
Now they wish they had got someone who specializes in function and design to come in and review their situation before buying.
Not your original question, but a few things my dad learned at a workshop on preventing falls.
Install grab bars around the tub. Also install towel rails that are strong enough to act as grab bars. You will have the opportunity to open up the walls and ensure there is structural support for the bars.
Do not keep bath mats on the floor, only lay them down when you are bathing. They area tripping hazard.
Put in a raised toilet.
Dad and his wife are in their 80's and still live in their homes (one in Canada one in New Zealand). They have made the above minor adaptations in both homes. Neither house could be made wheel chair accessible, dues to narrow hallways and doors.
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Date: 3/9/13 10:48 AM
We bought a year ago a natural gas tankless hot water heater for our 1894 sq foot single story house. LOVE it. I can't imagine ever thinking a hot water tank in the garage was a good thing. The new unit is a Rinnai.
We have noticed we take longer showers now, but not much longer. Maybe 3 minutes. The water temp is set to 120 degrees and it is plenty hot when it runs through the unit to heat it. The washer likes it more and so does the dishwasher. We do have to run the water for a minute to heat the pipes in the kitchen for the dishwasher. We did hear the electric units were not as energy efficient as the natural gas ones.
Sorry, I can't help with the tub issue.
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Date: 3/9/13 1:56 PM
OH my ,having to sit and run all that water would be horrific to me as would sitting waiting for the drain out. So can that idea. Thanks for telling me this. I like sitting in my tubby and am not messing that up. I think a better option should it be needed is in the half bath in the utility room there is an unused shower (bad idea to have put it there ) except for storing extra supplies. I told dh if I got a thumbs down on the tub we could widen the opening and put a special shower back there for handicapped bathing should the need arise. We have a neighbor who had a stroke last year and he has deteriorated to having his wife and home health putting him in the shower now. I have been giving this some thought. In the master bath only the door into the shower and potty section is narrow so I am thinking at the very least opening that up wider which would not be a huge thing to do.We are tiling the bedroom and bath so I wouldn't have the floor issuelike if we had to open it later. We never use the door anyway and a chair or scooter could access the toilet and the tub unit for limited mobility. I think the higher toilet is a good suggestion since we are gutting the bath. It is going to be a big undertaking since there are 4 big closets to empty out and all the clutter that landed in our bedroom when we did the same to the rest of the house. I am not looking forward to the work of moving out and back in but it will be nice when it is over with. When I went to the old master bath the other day cleaning before the girls'families are here at Easter there had been a small leak and the tub had rust and gunk which motivated me to get in gear. While the contractor was here looking to see what I wanted done, he and I decided we might as well get rid of the top and lavatory and the old lighted medicine cabinet and put in some new much needed outlets. He has promised me if he can't get in and out before the house is full he will do the tub and shower part and not have a disaster going with the vanity /wall redo until they leave. He also went into the master to see what we would be doing in that bathroom after our company leaves. I was really surprised when I asked him the other day about the master bath as he would have started now if the company wasn't due in and we had time to clear it out. He said no home building is going on around here and only small plumbing jobs so he was anxious to have the work even agreed to do the electrical small stuff I was wanting. He said his cabinet man who is good was also slow with work so I am having him do the vanity and 3 over the toilet cabinets in the house like one I had done in the utility a long time ago as it holds a ton of stuff. Dh was about to faint when he realized it was going way beyond the new faucets and shower in the back bathroom. I just hadn't realized it looked that cruddy back there until the contractor and I were taking a look. Sort of out of sight out of mind kind of thing with that bathroom. Dh and I will move up there while we are doing the master gut so it will be nice to have faucets that work and the new stuff.
I was told by the contractor that the gas tankless heaters were wonderful according to those that have them. We will have to do the electric version as it would be hard to run the gas to that area. It would only have to supply water for maybe two baths a day so probably wouldn't be an issue about efficiency. The other parts of the house are on a conventional electric water heater that supplies most of the hot water.
Thanks for all the information. I think the tub thing would have made me a really unhappy camper.
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