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Message Board > Patterns and Notions > Pattern envelopes -- Butterick/McCalls ( Moderated by Sharon1952)

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Date: 3/10/13 10:56 AM

Anyone else made nuts by the recent reduction of useful information on the back of the pattern envelopes. Minor stuff like length, and skirt fullness and bust measure?
(I found myself right between sizes in two size ranges of a new Butterick yesterday. I usually check bust measure to decide, but the info wasn't there. I took the pattern out and tried to *carefully* unfold it to find the bodice front piece, but I couldn't unfold very far [I can never get the damn worms back into the can] and couldn't find the piece. So I guessed.)

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Date: 3/10/13 10:58 AM

Sometimes it's printed on the envelope flap. It's easy to miss if you don't know it's there.

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Date: 3/10/13 11:43 AM

Yup. The subject has come up in several places - here, on Facebook, on blogs. How hard is it to print it on the envelope - or, if space is a problem - in a chart on the instruction sheets? I pay far less attention to pattern size than I do finished measurements.

The only information I have seen on pattern envelope flaps is the standard size chart, which is pretty close to useless.
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Date: 3/10/13 11:51 AM

Amen! I wondered if I was the only one annoyed by this.
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Date: 3/10/13 12:13 PM

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YI pay far less attention to pattern size than I do finished measurements.

A-MEN.

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Date: 3/10/13 4:13 PM

yes me too. I have a patter that is gorgeous, but it will NOT tell me on the instructions or anywhere on the envelope how LONG the finished length of the pants are.

TOTALLY doesn't help me cuz I'm high waisted and like things to be right around my belly button (yes I know, its weird that my belly button and waist aren't on the same line) and on top of that - haha - I'm short. like 5'2".

so totally frusterating but the pattern is freaking adorable. sort of like gaucho pants I think

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Date: 3/10/13 6:13 PM

Yes I don't like that either when that happens. For a while, they all got pretty good at, at least printing the actual garment measurements for things like bust, and hem width, and such on the back of the patterns, now though, they often seem to be going back in the opposite direction, and saying see inside instead.

I think they are going in the wrong direction with that. It drives me to actually pull all patterns of the drawers at the store, and rifle though and unfold them to try to get that info. Then have to try to refold nicely for the next person if I end up not buying them. I can do that, by years of experience. But, I bet everyone else may not be that careful. If it's really not on the pattern or the fold out, then I might be even driven to grab store rulers and measuring tapes and miss-use them even, at the pattern table, and just do my own measuring too. That is really going to be freaking them out there at that point.

I think they all need to put some of that stuff back on the actual back of the pattern envelopes, on all the cases where now it has suddenly gone missing.

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Date: 3/11/13 7:04 AM

I agree, especially at the price of patterns if one cannot purchase it on sale. We need that information.

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Date: 3/11/13 7:33 AM

I sent a link to this discussion to McCall's, on the theory that we can rant all we want, but the company is the only one that can change things.

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Date: 3/11/13 11:28 AM

It's even worse for me now that I moved back to Canada. At the fabric stores here, only the employees have access to the patterns, so I can't even look inside of it on my own to find that information. I don't know if that would be allowed or not.

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